[can.general] message systems etc in canada, not just UUCP

julian@deepthot.UUCP (Julian Davies) (02/13/84)

There are several efforts going on in this direction: CDNNET/EAN
at UBC  (Gerry Neufeld),  MLNET at UWO (me) and a variety of more
local operations.  Anyone want a newsgroup to discuss developments in
this area.  Trouble is, of course, half the people interested aren't
on Usenet.

dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (02/16/84)

Let's keep it in can.general for now. Are there any gatways from
these message systems to uucp? Any prospects of a gateway from
Envoy 100 to uucp?

Dave Sherman
Toronto
-- 
 {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsrgv!dave

neufeld@ubc-vision.UUCP (Gerald Neufeld) (02/17/84)

Sounds good. I certainly would like to see some discusion about 
other message system besides UUCP. As Julian mentioned we have
been working on a message system based on the new CCITT protocols
for messaging (the X.400 series). It also uses the ISO session
and transport (class 0) protocols. To interconnect systems we 
have developed X.25 protocol package for Unix 4.2. Actually the
system can also transport messages over a phone line using a
modified version of CSNETs mmdf link protocol (the mods were to
permit 8bit data over ITI (X.29) links). It certainly is MUCH
better to use a direct datapac 3000 service to interconnect
however, both in speed and expense. Rental of a 2400 baud line
is $190 a month ($390 for 9600). The packet charges vary but its
about 1.50 per kilo packet from vancouver to toronto (packet
size is 256 characters). 

                    Gerry


deepthot???

neufeld@ubc-vision.UUCP (Gerald Neufeld) (02/18/84)

The ccitt message system we are working on here (the system is
called EAN) as a gateway to CSNET/ARPA and to UUCP. This 
simply means that anyone running the EAN system has access to
and from CSNET/ARPA and UUCP via the UBC gateway. 

The gateway provides protocol conversion between ccitt message
transfer and user agent protocol and arpa 822/821. The mailbox
addressing scheme we adopted is the same as ARPA. This makes
sending messages into and from ARPA etc. straight forward for
the user.


                             Gerry