shindman@utcs.uucp (Paul Shindman) (02/06/86)
This is the first I have heard of these seminars, and I have
a couple of questions:
1- Who/what is IPATT?
2- Where and when are the rest of these debates being held
across Canada.
A public forum seems to be the wrong place to discuss
this - at least at first glance. Canadian universities are
already linked by NetNorth or UUCP or CSNET, and gateways exist
so that mail can be sent from one to the other. Right now, the
only large universities not on NetNorth are UBC and Calgary, as
far as I know.
Anybody care to enlighten us?
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BITNET: paulie at utoronto IP SHARP MAIL: uoftrayan@utai.UUCP (Rayan Zachariassen) (02/06/86)
In article <1084@utcs.uucp> shindman@utcs.UUCP (Paul Shindman) writes:
# This is the first I have heard of these seminars,
Supposedly a paper-form of that brochure was mailed out.
# ... and I have
# a couple of questions:
#
# 1- Who/what is IPATT?
I'm not sure what the IP stand for, but this gathering is being
organized by PRATT (Pacific Region Association for Telematics and
Telidon).
# 2- Where and when are the rest of these debates being held
# across Canada.
(excerpt from private mail):
"This is the first of a series of conferences planned for 1986. The
others (all on the same theme of networking) will be held at Waterloo,
Moncton and Montreal. However, this first one is particularly
important because it will be the first time that the players from
various systems have been asked to work together."
# A public forum seems to be the wrong place to discuss
# this - at least at first glance. Canadian universities are
# already linked by NetNorth or UUCP or CSNET, and gateways exist
# so that mail can be sent from one to the other. Right now, the
# only large universities not on NetNorth are UBC and Calgary, as
# far as I know.
Just because a university is on netnorth doesn't mean all the machines
at the university are reachable that way. You guys should know...
# Anybody care to enlighten us?
OK, I can take a hint... This is NOT just a place for universities to
discuss things, if you notice, the first day is devoted to the plights
of mostly non-universities that are interested in getting in on the
'network' concept. I think the idea with the conference is threefold:
1. get a feel for what kinds of service people are interested in, what
their constraints and emphases are, how they would use a country-wide
network, etc. "people" encompassing a lot more than universities, and
primarily being users of the service.
2. introduce people in the different networking 'communities' to each
other and each other's philosophies. "people" being providers of the
service.
3. plug CDNnet, a network based on the ISO recommendations, x.400
protocols, and a few other buzzwords. About 30 hosts/sites around the
country are on this network at the moment, and lots more are hoped to
join...
If you're interested in going, I can furnish details by mail.
rayan
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ARPA rayan%toronto@csnet-relayhart@ubc-ean.UUCP (Roger Hart) (02/06/86)
IPATT is the InterProvincial Association for Telematics and Telidon. Michel Umbriaco at Tele-Universite is the Chairman, and Dave Godfrey (U.Vic) and Hans Kratz (Alberta Ministry) are the Vice-Chiarmen. The next debate is due to be held at the University of Waterloo on 3rd April. Others are planned for Alberta, Atlantic Canada and Quebec. The educational community consists of much more than the large universities. Very few colleges and even fewer schools have access to any network. Good networking facilities consists of much more than just sending mail, and some of the gateways (to say nothing of the protocols) leave a great deal to be desired. Incidentally - the Secretary of State awarded a grant of $3000,000 last year to an outfit called the Canadian Society for the Study of Higher Education to study the feasibility of establishing a Canadian Higher Education Research Network. I think will more awareness amongst non-computer science educators, that money could have been much better spent.