henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) (03/12/89)
In article <1989Mar10.135659.2392@lsuc.uucp> dave@lsuc.uucp (David Sherman) writes: >A month ago I opened our regular VISA statement, and on it >was a charge for $30 or so from "McGraw-Hill, Maidenhead, >England"... [further details deleted] >The letter from England was mailed from Kastrup, Denmark. >...If BYTE has to use offices in >England and New Jersey and mailing facilities in Denmark to >bill Canadians (after all, McGraw-Hill has offices in Canada), >I don't really need to deal with them. I can live without BYTE. It seems fairly common for stupid publishers to handle *all* non-US business via Europe. At one point my ACM journals tended to come via the Netherlands. I too have decided that I can live without Byte, especially since they dropped Ciarcia's column. -- Welcome to Mars! Your | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology passport and visa, comrade? | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu
mason@tmsoft.uucp (Dave Mason) (03/12/89)
In article <1989Mar10.135659.2392@lsuc.uucp> dave@lsuc.uucp (David Sherman) writes: >I've subscribed to BYTE for several years. In past years I've >always mailed them a cheque on my U.S. dollar account (while >wondering idly why they don't have billing in Canada -- they must >have enough subscribers here). >... >If the charge to my account does get credited back, I'm just >going to let the subscription lapse. If BYTE has to use offices in >England and New Jersey and mailing facilities in Denmark to >bill Canadians (after all, McGraw-Hill has offices in Canada), >I don't really need to deal with them. I can live without BYTE. I already do live without Byte (after collecting them for 10+ years, I decided not to renew last year). My understanding is that about 12-18 months ago (maybe all of, but at least) the magazine portion of McGraw-Hill (including Byte and Electronics) were purchased by a large Dutch publishing company. They consolidated various parts of their operation in various countries. They also made changes like making Electronics be totally free to `qualified reader's rather than the previous $40/year (broke MY heart :-). Personally, I don't understand why it bothers Canadians any more to be billed from Denmark, Holland or England than from the U.S.A. (Now if the postmark said Tehran, I might be concerned :-) I thought that was the whole point of Free Trade: to allow multinationals to `consolidate' jobs out of Canada. (Or is `rationalize' the correct word....all these big nil content words confuse me :-) ../Dave
dave@lsuc.uucp (David Sherman) (03/13/89)
mason@tmsoft.UUCP (Dave Mason) writes: >Personally, I don't understand why it bothers Canadians any more to be >billed from Denmark, Holland or England than from the U.S.A. If the result is that a charge I mailed off to New Jersey shows up as an inexplicable "Maidenhead, Berkshire, England" on my VISA bill, which then results in an Official International Query and the resulting confusion I described, I think that's enough reason. If they'd at least put "BYTE" rather than "MCGRAW HILL" as the billing company name for the English charge, they would have avoided the problem. I'll stick with my perennial free subscription to Canadian Datasystems :-) -- Moderator, mail.yiddish { uunet!attcan att utzoo }!lsuc!dave dave%lsuc@ai.toronto.edu
jim@mnetor.UUCP (Jim Stewart) (03/15/89)
>dave@lsuc.uucp (David Sherman) writes: >>I don't really need to deal with them. I can live without BYTE. mason@tmsoft.UUCP (Dave Mason) writes: >I already do live without Byte (after collecting them for 10+ years, I >decided not to renew last year). I didn't realize this was such an epidemic, I just stopped renewing Byte as well (after collecting them since the first one--its hard to break a set, otherwise I would have done it sooner). -- Jim Stewart, VE3SRJ UUCP: {utzoo,uunet}!mnetor!jim ARPA: jim%mnetor.uucp@uunet.uu.net BELL: (416)475-8980
woods@tmsoft.uucp (Greg Woods) (03/17/89)
In article <4945@mnetor.UUCP> jim@mnetor.UUCP (Jim Stewart) writes: >>dave@lsuc.uucp (David Sherman) writes: >>>I don't really need to deal with them. I can live without BYTE. > >mason@tmsoft.UUCP (Dave Mason) writes: >>I already do live without Byte (after collecting them for 10+ years, I >>decided not to renew last year). > >I didn't realize this was such an epidemic, I just stopped renewing >Byte as well (after collecting them since the first one--its hard >to break a set, otherwise I would have done it sooner). I beat you all! :-) (Though my collection is missing a few early ones.) I let my BYTE subscription lapse almost four years ago. I've only bought a few copies on the newstand since, and I've regretted buying most of them too! I haven't even appreciated Ciarcia's column lately, but that's just 'cause I don't have any need for or interest in his more recent projects. BYTE, like most other "hobby" computer magazines is TOO PC oriented. -- Greg Woods. woods@{{tmsoft,utgpu,gate,ontmoh}.UUCP,utorgpu.BITNET,gpu.utcs.Toronto.EDU} 1-416-443-1734 [h] 1-416-595-5425 [w] Toronto, Ontario, Canada
cks@ziebmef.uucp (Chris Siebenmann) (03/19/89)
In article <4945@mnetor.UUCP> jim@mnetor.UUCP (Jim Stewart) writes: | I didn't realize this was such an epidemic, I just stopped renewing | Byte as well (after collecting them since the first one--its hard | to break a set, otherwise I would have done it sooner). I suspect there's been a regular epidemic of people dropping or not renewing BYTE subscriptions; I knew I wasn't going to renew when I saw their full-page add trumpeting how they delivered more customers to advertisers than their two major competitors -- two PClone magazines. In the mean time, does anyone know a good replacement for BYTE -- ie. generic leading-edge machines covered in a technical manner? If one exists, I want to subscribe. -- "The hell I will!" WHAK! "Surpise, kid -- they retract! Try that again and I'll kick you back. With my claws." Chris Siebenmann uunet!{utgpu!moore,attcan!telly}!ziebmef!cks cks@ziebmef.UUCP or .....!utgpu!{,ontmoh!,ncrcan!brambo!}cks
rellis@alias.uucp (Reid Ellis) (03/19/89)
woods@tmsoft.UUCP (Greg Woods) writes: |BYTE, like most other "hobby" computer magazines is TOO PC oriented. Dr. Dobbs seems to be heading this way, too. There's still source, though. For now. Reid --- rae@geac.uucp | rellis@alias.uucp (Reid Ellis) 176 Brookbanks Dr, Don Mills ON, Canada, M3A 2T5, +1 416 446-1644 Copyright 1989 Reid Ellis; you may redistribute only if your recipients may.
w-colinp@microsoft.UUCP (Colin Plumb) (03/21/89)
cks@ziebmef.UUCP (Chris Siebenmann) wrote: > In the mean time, does anyone know a good replacement for BYTE -- > ie. generic leading-edge machines covered in a technical manner? If > one exists, I want to subscribe. H'm... the Micro Cornucopia is pretty reasonable, and the variety of stuff that makes in into the magazine put out by the C User's Group is pretty amazing. "Leading-edge machines" is a tricky one to define. Do you want supercomputers, mainframes, minis, high-end workstations, low-end workstations, high-end PC's, low-end PC's, 8-bit PC's, what? Microsoft's library is full of magazines that cover the general area, although with a strong IBM-clone leaning. (Anyplace that subscribes to 2600 can't be all bad! :-}) If you have some idea, I'd be happy to go looking. -- -Colin (uunet!microsoft!w-colinp) "Don't listen to me. I never do." - The Doctor
shields@yunccn.UUCP (Paul Shields) (03/21/89)
In article <3784@geaclib.UUCP>, rellis@alias.uucp (Reid Ellis) writes: > woods@tmsoft.UUCP (Greg Woods) writes: > |BYTE, like most other "hobby" computer magazines is TOO PC oriented. > Dr. Dobbs seems to be heading this way, too. There's still source, > though. For now. Yes, Dr. Dobbs is going that way too. Faster than you may think. They've had an amazing turnaround in editors lately. The recent issue about neural networks is for the birds. It caused me to go find some REAL information in Physical Review Letters. Communications of the ACM might be a good choice. -- Paul Shields, shields@yunccn.UUCP Who needs source?
dan@sparkles.dcss.McMaster.CA (Dan Trottier) (03/21/89)
In article <1989Mar18.215438.15817@ziebmef.uucp> cks@ziebmef.UUCP (Chris Siebenmann) writes: > > In the mean time, does anyone know a good replacement for BYTE -- >ie. generic leading-edge machines covered in a technical manner? If >one exists, I want to subscribe. > Has anyone tried the new magasine called MIPS? From the first couple of issues it looks good compared to BYTE and friends. It's mostly dedicated to the workstation market, specializing in 80386, 680x0, etc architectures. How about good Unix mags? We get Unix World and Dr. Dobbs but there has to be more mags out there than that. -- Dan Trottier dan@maccs.McMaster.CA Dept of Computer Science ...!uunet!utai!utgpu!maccs!dan McMaster University (416) 525-9140 x3444
woods@tmsoft.uucp (Greg Woods) (03/24/89)
In article <2201@sparkles.dcss.McMaster.CA> dan@sparkles.UUCP (Dan Trottier) writes: >How about good Unix mags? We get Unix World and Dr. Dobbs but there has to >be more mags out there than that. Try Unix Review. It's a bit expensive, but has so far been well worth it to me. (It's $52.00US for us Canadians) It has one, or two, good reveiws per month, articles about standards and technology, how-to articles, good columns, some technical articles, and of course recent industry news. -- Greg A. Woods. woods@{{tmsoft,utgpu,gate,ontmoh}.UUCP,utorgpu.BITNET,gpu.utcs.Toronto.EDU} 1-416-443-1734 [h] 1-416-595-5425 [w] Toronto, Ontario, Canada
evan@telly.UUCP (Evan Leibovitch) (03/24/89)
In article <1989Mar23.163632.24596@tmsoft.uucp> woods@tmsoft.UUCP (Greg Woods) writes: >In article <2201@sparkles.dcss.McMaster.CA> dan@sparkles.UUCP (Dan Trottier) writes: >>How about good Unix mags? >Try Unix Review. It's a bit expensive, but has so far been well worth >it to me. (It's $52.00US for us Canadians) I agree. It's free if you live in the States, but costs here. That's a bit absurd, considering the cover price is $4. It's cheaper to buy it at newsstands. Now, are there newsstands around here that carry it? -- Evan Leibovitch, SA of System Telly, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario evan@telly.on.ca / {uunet!attcan,utzoo}!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504 You can lead a herring to water, but you have to walk really fast or he'll die