goldfarb@ucf-cs.UUCP (Ben Goldfarb) (08/10/84)
[swallow THIS one, Cathy!] Just when you thought you had seen all of Cathy Rigby you could tolerate, she turns up doing the color commentary for rhythmic gymnastics! Just an aside, because Howard, not Cathy, is the focus of this article. First of all, regardless of what you think of Cosell's announcing, ethnic slurs are uncalled for. I refer specifically to the "Howard Nosell" moniker hung on him by a net flamer. Also, distaste for his Bronx accent should be expressed as such instead of casting random slurs on his credibility and integrity as a fight announcer. He has been doing fights for at least 25 years that I can remember; I doubt that those who criticize him on this net have seen one-tenth as many fights as casual observers in their lifetimes or have studied boxing and individual boxers to the extent that Cosell does, let alone putting on a pair of gloves and stepping into the ring. Those who think they know more than Howard should turn the damn sound off; just as there is an "n" key on your keyboard, there sure as hell is a volume control on your TV. Finally, I have not observed any of the reported bias toward American boxers in Cosell's commentary. A bit of self-conscious nationalism, yes, but his assessments of the abilities and capabilities of boxers of other nationalities have been accurate, by and large. The Tillman decision is an example of Howard taking an adversary position to a decision that advanced an American to the finals unjustly; perhaps he was just feeling bad yesterday or maybe he was upset Wednesday night when he returned to his hotel room and read net.rec? Furthermore, Cosell doesn't personally choose which fights will be shown, so why blame him for the bias there? As a group, I believe our boxers are the best of the field and I enjoy watching them. Sure, I would like to see talent from other countries but I don't get that same warm glow watching a Korean win. And if the Russians and Cubans had been there, I believe our guys still would have shown their superiority. Perhaps we should throw a few fights to satisfy those bleeding hearts who feel the third world nations aren't getting their fair share?? Sorry for the long flame and the defense of Howard, but I've enjoyed ABC's boxing coverage. Tell it like it is, Howard! -- Ben Goldfarb University of Central Florida uucp: {duke,decvax,princeton}!ucf-cs!goldfarb ARPA: goldfarb.ucf-cs@csnet.relay csnet: goldfarb@ucf
haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) (08/14/84)
<.> ...but I *do* get that warm glow from seeing a Korean beat an American! One country's (whether US or USSR) winning over 80 gold medals is obscene! To top it all, did you see this scene?: Howard Cosell is interviewing a US boxer who lost his match on points (to me, it was fairly obvious). So, Jim McKay (that's the anchor's name isn't it?) cuts into the interview to ask *his* only question: "Do you think there was international politics involved in this decision?" To me, that's even worse than Cosell. Tom Haapanen {allegra,decvax,ihnp4}!watmath!watdcsu!haapanen
2141smh@aluxe.UUCP (henning) (08/15/84)
**** **** From the keys of Steve Henning, AT&T Bell Labs, Reading, PA aluxe!2141smh Speaking of the devil, I mean Howard. I was offended by his constant reference to "those African fighters really hang in there." He used this constantly in fight after fight. I'm sure that those fighters from Africa were people and would like to be referred to as individuals and not lumped. You can lump monkeys, but people are individuals. I am a WASP but still can't stand ethnic generalizations.