[net.taxes] IRA

steve@rochester.UUCP (Steve Hammond) (03/01/84)

From: Steve Hammond  <steve>

	I sort of have mixed emtions about IRA's.  Most people cannot afford
to tie up 2k/year(which is the most effective way of utilizing this deal) for
some number of consecutive number of years.  I know that I really don't want
to.  But on the other hand, if one can truelly afford to tie up his assets in
this way then he/she doesn't really need to use the IRA as either a tax shelter
or a savings for the future.  Presumably the person in the latter situation
is in the position to explore more creative ventures.

	Does anyone have any comments on this.  I'm certainly not an expert
on these things.

	steve hammond   rochester!steve  steve@rochester.ARPA

jphalter@ihuxb.UUCP (03/03/84)

What I know about IRA's in 5 lines or less:
  1. Consumer Reports did an article last year about IRA's and came out
     sounding very positive. You need not tie up your money for 40+ years.
     Payback time for an IRA withdrawal is about 8-9 years, meaning you'll
     come out ahead by leaving the money in an IRA for 8-9 years AND then
     paying the 10% withdrawal penalty + taxes. (This assumes your tax
     bracket isn't outrageous in 8-9 years.)
  2. $2000 in MY bank account seems like a better deal to me than $700-800
     in the IRS's bank account. I, at least, retain control over the money
     and it is available for 60 day loans without penalty.
Well...10 lines or less....

rmd@hpfcla.UUCP (03/18/84)

I am  interested in your comment  about being able to take a 60 day loan
on an IRA  without  penalty.  This  seems  to  contradict  something  my
brother (a CPA) told me.  He said that using your IRA as collateral  for
a loan would be  interpreted  by the IRS as grounds for invoking the 10%
penalty  rule.  However,  I did not ask him  specifically  about  60 day
loans and it has been  about two years  since I talked to him about  the
subject.

What was your  source of  information?  Was my brother  wrong?  Have the
rules changed?

Rick Dow
inhp4!hpfcla!rmd