[net.micro.atari] DS/DD ST drive

rbk@akguc.UUCP (R.B. Kummer [Brad]) (09/27/85)

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I just got a new DS/DD SF314 drive for my ST.  It works great, but I
can't figure out how to create a bootable DS/DD system disk.  Just
formatting the disk double sided and copying the files off the single
sided system disk doesn't work, presumably because it needs the hidden
system files and/or boot tracks.  Any ideas?  (Alas, I don't have the
developer's package... sigh.)
					R. Brad Kummer	 akguc!rbk
					AT&T Bell Labs - Atlanta

randy@nlm-vax.ARPA (Rand Huntzinger) (10/01/85)

Brad Kummer asked how to make a DS/DD boot disk for his Atari ST.  Simply
copying the files to a DS diskette doesn't work.  The problem is that a
boot sector, properly set up for a DS drive, has to be written onto the
disk.  The Atari BIOS provides the necessary functions, and a boot can be
written to disk with the BIOS calls in the following code fragment.

	#include	<osbind.h>
	char	buf[512];

	Floprd(buf, 0L, SSDRV, 1, 0, 0, 1);	/* Read boot from SS drive */
	Protobt(buf, 0x01000000, 3, 1);		/* Convert to DS form */
	Flopwr(buf, 0L, DSDRV, 1, 0, 0, 1);	/* Write boot to DS drive */

	where:	SSDRV and DSDRV are the drive numbers of the single and
		double sided drives respectively.  Drive A: is 0, and drive
		B: is 1.

Unfortunately, you need the developer's kit to do this.  Is there a way to do
it without?  Of course, once you have one copy of a DS disk with a boot on it
your can clone it with image copies of the disk.

					Rand Huntzinger

mroddy@enmasse.UUCP (Mark Roddy) (10/02/85)

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Well the bad news is that you cannot currently make a bootable? DSDD
diskette. You are stuck with using your SSDD drive as drive A, and the 
big guy as drive B. Conflicting rumours abound as to Atari's intention
to remedy this situation, but the best theory is that it won't be fixed
until all of their supply of SS drives are exhausted. (Also hard drives
won't be available until they figure that everyone went for a DS drive.)

Really this ain't so bad, unless you just wanted to trash your small drive
and go for two big ones. I figure that the final configuration: 
	A: SSDD
	B: DSDD
	C: HD
is a pretty good one.
-- 
						Mark Roddy
						Net working,
						Just reading the news.

					(harvard!talcott!panda!enmasse!mroddy)

ted@inmet.UUCP (10/02/85)

I believe that you have to do the following to make a bootable DS/DD
disk.

   1) format the DS/DD disk
   2) open the DS/DD disk
   3) open the TOS disk and copy the TOS image and the decktop file
      to the DS/DD disk by dragging them to the DS/DD window.

You won't be able to make a bootable disk by using the copy utility for some
reason, but I think the above procedure will work.  Happy Hacking...

                                                ted@inmet

djb@riccb.UUCP (Dave J. Burris ) (10/07/85)

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> Well the bad news is that you cannot currently make a bootable? DSDD
> diskette. You are stuck with using your SSDD drive as drive A, and the 
> big guy as drive B. Conflicting rumours abound as to Atari's intention
> to remedy this situation, but the best theory is that it won't be fixed
> until all of their supply of SS drives are exhausted. (Also hard drives
> won't be available until they figure that everyone went for a DS drive.)
> 

Sorry, but you CAN use the double sided drive as drive A. The only restriction
is that your boot disk must be formatted single sided.

-- 
Dave Burris
..!ihnp4!ihopa!riccb!djb
Rockwell Switching Systems, Downers Grove, Il.

randy@nlm-vax.ARPA (Rand Huntzinger) (10/08/85)

Good news and bad news:

The good news is that I do have a program which makes a bootable
double sided floppy disk for the ST.

The bad news is that I don't know how to distribute it.  I can
post it to the net, but how are those folks who are running nothing
but LOGO going to download it?  I really can't afford the time to
make and send diskettes for anybody who might want one.  I did give a
copy to my Atari dealer (the Program Store at White Flint Mall in Rockville
Md) but that only helps those in this area.

Does anybody have a downloader written in LOGO?