abrams@MITRE.ARPA (Marshall D. Abrams) (11/08/85)
I am told that BYTE is going to stop publication. I didn't see any announcement myself. Can anyone confirm this? Sincerely, - Marshall D. Abrams, phone: (703) 883-6938 The MITRE Corporation, 1820 Dolley Madison Blvd. Mail Stop W458, Mc Lean, VA 22102
jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) (11/10/85)
I think that you've misheard. Byte's not folding. Creative Computing
apparently is folding. Furthermore, Popular Computing is folding and
apparently Hot CoCo is folding (although I expect Hot CoCo will be absorbed
into 80 Micro again). There may be others biting the dust too fairly soon.
One magazine that is still going is 68 Micro Journal. If you're
interested in the 68000 processor family, this magazine will probably
be of value. Right now it's mainly 6809, but covering OS-9, Flex, C (at
a fairly advanced level). I'd hope that the next year will bring Atari
support as well, but it's hard to forcast. The Mac never seemed to develop
much interest in this magazine, but then the Mac was never promoted as a
'hackers' computer.
Cheers! -- Jim O.
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MTS at WU: GKL6ajb@MITRE.ARPA (Alan Broder) (11/12/85)
I don't know about BYTE folding, however, Creative Computing is soon to print its last issue.
wayne@puff.UUCP (11/13/85)
has anybody seen an issue of Dr. Dobb's lately? i was a loyal (though often confused) subscriber, and they just sort of vanished from my mailbox. i hope that the fine rag which published the GNU Manifesto hasn't succumbed to terminal magazine shakeoutemia! lupus
bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) (11/13/85)
In article <8511120854.AA03029@mitre.ARPA> ajb@MITRE.ARPA (Alan Broder) writes: >I don't know about BYTE folding, however, Creative Computing is soon to print >its last issue. It just did; the December issue is the last, although Ahl et al ( :-)) are looking for a 'white knight' to buy the rights from Ziff-Davis & start them up again. Another of the oldies goes belly-up; drat... Bob Halloran Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {topaz, pesnta, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: I doubt that my employer wants anything to do with my opinions. Quote: "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..." -- H. S. Thompson
hr@uicsl.UUCP (11/14/85)
RE: folding
".. Creative Computing is soon to print its last issue.."
Guess which magazine Ziff Davis stuck me with when "Computers & Electronics"
was killed.
Z.D. has pulled THREE magazines from under me in about as many years.
(Then FNE went commercial and pulled "DTACK Grounded".)
harold ravlin
{ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!uicsl!hrjimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) (11/16/85)
>Another of the oldies goes belly-up; drat... > > Bob Halloran > Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG I heard the other day that "Microsystems" has been re-incarnated. Sol Libes restarted it. There may be hope for Ahl yet. Cheers! -- Jim O. -- James Omura, Barrister & Solicitor, Toronto ihnp4!utzoo!lsuc!jimomura Byte Information eXchange: jimomura Compuserve: 72205,541 MTS at WU: GKL6
bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) (11/18/85)
In article <7500005@uicsl> hr@uicsl.UUCP writes: >RE: folding > ".. Creative Computing is soon to print its last issue.." >Guess which magazine Ziff Davis stuck me with when "Computers & Electronics" >was killed. >Z.D. has pulled THREE magazines from under me in about as many years. >(Then FNE went commercial and pulled "DTACK Grounded".) Recent news story says that McGraw Hill is buying Ziff's computer 'zine line from them. Creative et al may have just been given a new lease on life, although the probable re-casting into BYTE's mold may destroy what VERY! little of them Ziff-Davis left. Bob Halloran Sr MTS, CONCURRENT Computer Corp (Formerly Perkin-Elmer DSG) ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {pesnta, topaz, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: I doubt that my employer wants anything to do with my opinions. Quote: "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..." -- Hunter Thompson
kim@mips.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) (11/18/85)
>>I don't know about BYTE folding, however, Creative Computing is soon to print >>its last issue. > >It just did {CC, that is}; the December issue is the last, although Ahl et al >are looking for a 'white knight' to buy the rights from Ziff-Davis & >start them up again. Yep, ol' Ziff-Davis ought to be pretty proud of their hit-ratio ... lessee: Microsystems Computers & Electronics (formerly Popular Electronics, and one of the oldest hobbiest/tech magazines in the field) Creative-Computing Anybody know who published "PC Age" ... one of the few technical magazines for MS/PC-DOS'ish machines a year or two ago? Granted, the Marketplace has changed over the years, but I suspect that there are at least as many people interested in technical info now as there were in (say) 1978 or so ... actually, I'd bet that there are quite a few more. It couldn't possibly be that these magazines just weren't turning *enough* profit to satisfy "Corporate", could it? BTW, Sol & Lennie Libes have resurrected Microsystems (which I believe they started, before Ziff-Davis got ahold of it), and renamed it Micro/Systems Journal. They've just published their 5th issue, and are running it out of their garage. It has a very high percentage of TECHNICAL/editorial content, and deserves to be successful. If you haven't yet tried it, pick up an issue ... if you're technically oriented, I think you'll like it. As an example, their 5th issue included the 1st half of an extensive article on the NEC V20/V30 chip (pin-compatible, but higher performance replacement for the 8088/8086 chip), including alot of assembler macros to use the new opcodes, etc. Note: I'm not associated with Ziff-Davis (obviously) or Micro/Systems Journal in any way, and my opinions are my own ... though the Tooth-Fairy often agrees with me. /kim -- UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!kim DDD: 415-960-1200 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems Inc, 1330 Charleston Rd, Mt View, CA 94043
jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) (11/20/85)
In article <7500005@uicsl> hr@uicsl.UUCP writes: >RE: folding > > ".. Creative Computing is soon to print its last issue.." >Z.D. has pulled THREE magazines from under me in about as many years. >(Then FNE went commercial and pulled "DTACK Grounded".) (The above has been a bit edited) While there are a number of Atari Magazines available, may I suggest that those interested in 68000 technology also look into (and hopefully buy) 68 Micro Journal. It's main thrust is single board computers, and *all* Motorola chipsets. It has supported the Radio Shack Color Computer well in the past and I expect it would support the Atari as well, if Atari users supported it. There is a very important roll that this magazine has played for the Color Computer and can play for the 520ST users. They are *not* biased and call a spade a spade. They have been openly critical when deserved. The value of that as opposed to the rose-color glasses approach of most magazines is refreshing. The extremely high quality writing is also. How many other magazines have been able to boast a long running series on Ada (5 parts so far)? Few magazines have printed as much on the 'C' language. Flex, Uniflex and OS-9 are supported in 6809 and 68000 family forms. I hope you support the various dedicated Atari magazines as well, but don't overlook the wider picture. Cheers! -- Jim O. -- James Omura, Barrister & Solicitor, Toronto ihnp4!utzoo!lsuc!jimomura Byte Information eXchange: jimomura Compuserve: 72205,541 MTS at WU: GKL6
bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) (11/21/85)
In article <228@mips.UUCP> kim@mips.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) writes: >BTW, Sol & Lennie Libes have resurrected Microsystems (which I believe they >started, before Ziff-Davis got ahold of it), and renamed it Micro/Systems >Journal. They've just published their 5th issue, and are running it out of >their garage. It has a very high percentage of TECHNICAL/editorial content, >and deserves to be successful. If you haven't yet tried it, pick up an >issue ... if you're technically oriented, I think you'll like it. Yes, the Libes' DID start S-100 Microsystems; I remember getting my first issue at the old Computer Mart of NJ. If the revived journal is as good as the original S-100 Microsystems, then I sincerely wish them every possible bit of good luck. Bob Halloran Sr MTS, CONCURRENT Computer Corp (a Perkin-Elmer company) ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {pesnta, topaz, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: I doubt that my employer wants anything to do with my opinions. Quote: "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..." -- Hunter Thompson
hr@uicsl.UUCP (11/21/85)
RE:
" While there are a number of Atari Magazines available, may
I suggest that those interested in 68000 technology also look into
(and hopefully buy) 68 Micro Journal."
Here is a partially dissenting opinion. I recently subscribed to
68 Micro and was disappointed. Most of it seemed directed towards
the 6809 with relatively little on the 68K. If I had a 6809 system,
I'd probably like it more. As it stands, I'd rather read Antic and
Analog. Since I have a year's subscription, I should have plenty of
time to change my mind. (It does NOT seem to be a game of the month
rag, but more 'serious'.) I was interested in the 68020 single board
system ads that are beginning to appear there.
harold ravlin
{ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!uicsl!hrjimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) (11/28/85)
In article <7500006@uicsl> hr@uicsl.UUCP writes: > >RE: > " While there are a number of Atari Magazines available, may >I suggest that those interested in 68000 technology also look into >(and hopefully buy) 68 Micro Journal." > >Here is a partially dissenting opinion. I recently subscribed to >68 Micro and was disappointed. Most of it seemed directed towards >the 6809 with relatively little on the 68K. If I had a 6809 system, >I'd probably like it more. As it stands, I'd rather read Antic and >Analog. Since I have a year's subscription, I should have plenty of >time to change my mind. (It does NOT seem to be a game of the month >rag, but more 'serious'.) I was interested in the 68020 single board >system ads that are beginning to appear there. > > harold ravlin No there isn't a lot there for Atari people yet. If the readership builds, then we can expect that there will be. Keep in mind that much of what's put into 68 Micro J. comes from us readers. As such, what they're waiting for is submissions as well as subscribers. If you have something to share with others, then 68 Micro could be a nice vehicle because it tends to be more open and less biased (notice how *many* different systems are already supported?). A lot of high tech'ers are not on and probably never will be on Usenet. BIX and CIS can be too expensive as well. Good magazines are cheaper and reach more people. Cheers -- Jim O. -- James Omura, Barrister & Solicitor, Toronto ihnp4!utzoo!lsuc!jimomura Byte Information eXchange: jimomura Compuserve: 72205,541 MTS at WU: GKL6