stephan@kontron.UUCP (Stephan W. Wendl) (01/22/86)
Everytime I use MicroEmacs or the pseudo shell "command.prg" I am loosing (of course I dont know whether it was there before) the cursor. It sort of fishing in the dark trying to edit a file without having a cursor. I would like to know whether someone knows how to solve this problem before I start digging through my development pkg. Thanks for any advise leading to the recovery of this precious part of my ST.
randy@nlm-vax.UUCP (01/24/86)
In article <480@kontron.UUCP> stephan@kontron.UUCP (Stephan W. Wendl) writes: >Everytime I use MicroEmacs or the pseudo shell "command.prg" I am loosing >(of course I dont know whether it was there before) the cursor. It sort of >fishing in the dark trying to edit a file without having a cursor. I would like >to know whether someone knows how to solve this problem before I start digging >through my development pkg. Thanks for any advise leading to the recovery of >this precious part of my ST. This is probably a common problem, so I'm posting the solution rather than responding by mail. There are two basic types of applications, GEM and TOS. The TOS applications can be divided into TOS and TOS-TAKES-PARAMETERS. By default, files ending in .PRG, .TOS, and .TTP are GEM, TOS, and TOS-TAKES- PARAMETERS applications respectively. The only difference between TOS and TTP is you get a chance to enter command line options when starting a TTP application. This application type can be overridden using the Install Application menu item. [Don't forget to save the desktop after doing this unless you want it to go away the next time you boot] What does this have to do with your problem? GEM applications use a mouse cursor and TOS applications use a standard terminal type cursor. To get the standard cursor, you have to specify that this is a TOS application. So, if you change MicroEmacs to me.ttp (so you can put a file name on the command line), or install it as a TTP application, you'll have a proper cursor when it runs.
wampler@unmvax.UUCP (01/24/86)
> Everytime I use MicroEmacs or the pseudo shell "command.prg" I am loosing > (of course I dont know whether it was there before) the cursor. This one is easy, once you figure it out. Don't call the file .prg! Use .ttp or .tos. When you rename it to .tos, the cursor stays. (This is independent of the set options menu - you must rename the file). As far as I know, this is not documented anywhere, but I just accidentally discovered this. -- Dr. Bruce E. Wampler University of New Mexico Department of Computer Science Albuquerque, NM 87131 ..{ucbvax | seismo!gatech | ihnp4!lanl}!unmvax!wampler
franco@iuvax.UUCP (01/24/86)
This is also an ST question. While we are on the subject of cursors, does anyone know how to get the cursor to stay on all the time. Having the cursor on the screen half the time is alot better than not at all but it still is annoying in EMACS. Thanks.
lcp@slovax.UUCP (Larry Procter) (01/26/86)
> Everytime I use MicroEmacs or the pseudo shell "command.prg" I am loosing > (of course I dont know whether it was there before) the cursor. It sort of > fishing in the dark trying to edit a file without having a cursor. I would > like to know whether someone knows how to solve this problem before I start > digging through my development pkg. Thanks for any advise leading to the > recovery of this precious part of my ST. By simply changing the file name extension to ".TOS", the cursor will be retained. This is true for any executable such as Micro-Emacs, Command.prg, etc. Larry Procter (uw-beaver!tikal!slovax!lcp) R & D Associates Tacoma, Wa.
ireland@ALMSA-1.ARPA (Mike Ireland) (01/26/86)
<ritual sacrifice> An addendum to randy's response to stephen's question: (If you run programs from both command.prg and the desktop.) I've found it's most convenient to use the .prg extension and use the Install Application option to specify the program type (TOS or TOS-TAKES-PARAMETERS). Command.prg does not recognize .tos or .ttp as a default program extension like it does .prg. For example, MicroEMACS would be named me.prg and be installed as TOS-TAKES-PARAMETERS. Be sure and save the desktop after installing an application! Btw, does anyone know if there is a limit on the number of installed applications? (Or what the practical limit is?) -- Mike Ireland <ireland@almsa-1.arpa> ..!seismo!brl!ireland@almsa-1.arpa USAMC ALMSA, Box 1578, St. Louis, MO 63188-1578 (314) 263-5118, AV 693