[net.social] Is It True Men Have More Fun?

turner (03/22/83)

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ucbesvax!turner    Mar 22 02:24:00 1983

	Is this newsgroup dying?  It is rather ironically named, if so.

	Well, I do have something to talk about.  While we're waiting
    around for net.sex-roles (ahem), I would like to direct your attention
    to an article in the latest issue of "Mother Jones" on the evolution
    and manipulation of men's self-images in America over the last thirty
    years.

	Barbara Ehrenreich (sp?) has some interesting things to say about
    counterculture and its appropriation into the mainstream, among other
    things.

	She characterizes men's culture as revolving around the ideal-
    ization of escape from economic and familial responsibility (with the
    latter tied strongly by tradition to the former.)  She sees this as
    endemic to both mainstream ("straight") life, and to counterculture,
    at least as it manifested itself into the late seventies.

	I wonder how this might relate to the (relative and ever-shrinking)
    male domination of computer programming as a "profession"?  I mean, here
    I am at two in the morning...a man, out late at night, doing something
    that mostly men do, and mostly for fun, while my girlfriend sleeps at
    home.  A long pattern of subtle (and not-so-subtle) discrimination puts
    me in a situation where I have more freedom and more fun.  Not that
    I feel so terribly guilty about this, but I do wonder what, if any,
    self-correcting factors are at work.

	Michael Turner
	ucbvax!turner@ESVAX