turner (03/22/83)
#N:ucbesvax:8300001:000:1458 ucbesvax!turner Mar 22 02:24:00 1983 Is this newsgroup dying? It is rather ironically named, if so. Well, I do have something to talk about. While we're waiting around for net.sex-roles (ahem), I would like to direct your attention to an article in the latest issue of "Mother Jones" on the evolution and manipulation of men's self-images in America over the last thirty years. Barbara Ehrenreich (sp?) has some interesting things to say about counterculture and its appropriation into the mainstream, among other things. She characterizes men's culture as revolving around the ideal- ization of escape from economic and familial responsibility (with the latter tied strongly by tradition to the former.) She sees this as endemic to both mainstream ("straight") life, and to counterculture, at least as it manifested itself into the late seventies. I wonder how this might relate to the (relative and ever-shrinking) male domination of computer programming as a "profession"? I mean, here I am at two in the morning...a man, out late at night, doing something that mostly men do, and mostly for fun, while my girlfriend sleeps at home. A long pattern of subtle (and not-so-subtle) discrimination puts me in a situation where I have more freedom and more fun. Not that I feel so terribly guilty about this, but I do wonder what, if any, self-correcting factors are at work. Michael Turner ucbvax!turner@ESVAX