usrgrp@mrvax.DEC (Rick Christensen, DTN 231-7471) (02/07/85)
>Greg, I don't know if you realize what you said, but this is an extremely >insulting comment to many groups, including divorced people, 'liberated' >women (whatever that is) and most other people. >Ten or 20 years ago, couples stayed together more than they do today. The >reason for this was that women were financially dependent upon their men. >They stayed home and kept house, he went out and made money. As women join -> the job market, they become more independent and no longer HAVE to take the -> garbage men have been feeding them for years. Look at things-- back then, -> men cheated on their wives, lied to them, beat them (and their children), -> and were generally nasty. Women were definite second class citizens, little -> more than unpaid nannies and sexual slaves. None of this is any different >than it is today, in many ways, except women are now more able to survive >on their own. If the alternatives are starving and a few bruises, you learn >to take the bruises. I dont know if YOU realize what YOU said, but I take exception to the five lines above. You seem to imply that this abhorrent behavior was the general rule rather than the exception, personally I do not remember it being so. *RICK*
afo@pucc-k (Laurie J. Sefton) (02/09/85)
Oh really? Obviously you grew up in either a much more enlightened
or a much more secretive environment than most...
Then again, you probably never got a chance to hear the statements:
- don't act so intelligent, boys won't like you
- why should you go to school, when all you're going
to do is get married and have babies
- Oh, going to Purdue? Trying to get an engineer for a
husband?
- Women aren't supposed to enjoy sex, dear, we put up with
it as part of marriage
- I've been married for 20 years, and now my husband has
left me for a younger woman. I don't have any skills,
my husband wouldn't *allow* me to work after we were
married
- I went to my mother after my husband beat me, and all
she said was that I must have made him angry with me, and
that I deserved it.
- My husband just died, and the bank has frozen all the
accounts because I never contributed to them. I don't
know how to take care of financial matters, I don't even
know where the papers are. My husband never let me see
any of them.
- Why should you have a raise equal to him? He has a wife
to support.
Come off of it bozo! Women have been trapped for years in marriages
that weren't working, because they didn't have the education or the
experience to get a job. Many didn't even know how much money their
husbands made, because they were doled out an allowance with which
to run the house. And the only reason you didn't hear about wife
beatings is that they weren't reported, or that the police treated
them as 'family matters'.
Time to join the real world
--
Laurie Sefton
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Unfortunately, my magicks have very little use in an industrialised
society....