[net.sport.football] No decorum in Nebraska

chevy@ihuxq.UUCP (09/19/83)

I don't think Nebraska Coach Tom Osborne "let" his team rack up
84 points against Minnesota, but it was the Minnesota defense
that couldn't stop second and third team Nebraska offenses. The
Sunday Chicago Tribune quoted Osborne "I'm sorry we scored that
many points, but the whole team is out there trying their best".
You can't expect any coach to tell his team to go out and do bad,
even if his team is leading 42-0 at halftime. You also have to look
at the perspective of the second and third team for Nebraska. They are
trying to win a possible starting job, so they're going to do the best
they can no matter what the score is. Nebraska did not kick any field
goals (they might not have had the chance), they scored 12 touchdowns,
including a 50-some yard run by a back in the fourth quarter. That's
not something a coach can just "let" his team do. Maybe Nebraska is
just that awesome and Minnesota is not very good. I think so.

		Kris Sherwin
		AT&T Bell Laboratories IW
		...!ihuxq!chevy

erickson@ihu1f.UUCP (09/20/83)

I agree with several comments that Kris Sherwin made on the Nebraska-Minnesota
game and Coach Osborne "letting" the score get run up.  One other aspect
to remember is that this was a road game for Nebraska and as such, only
50-60 players could be taken on the trip.  Nebraska is incredibly
deep in talent and has some very good football players on the second
and third string.  In fact, these players often play as a regular
part of a "normal" game.  These were probably the only ones that made the
trip.  As Kris stated, the coach isn't going to tell these players
to "lay down", since they are trying to prove that they deserve to start.
At home, Nebraska usually suits up close to 100 players so that by the
fourth quarter in a game like Minnesota, the fourth and fifth string
often play.  On the road, Osborne does not have this flexibility.

Another thing that Coach Osborne has to worry about is the sharpness
of his first string.  In years past, Nebraska has had problems in the
latter portions of close games (especially Oklahoma).  
In early games, the starters only see action in the first half and
the early part of the third quarter.  I feel that this can affect their
stamina and ability to maintain their sharpness in a close game where
they must play the entire game.

One surprising statistic from this game was in time of possesion.
Nebraska controlled the ball for something like 23 minutes and
Minnesota controlled the ball for something like 36 minutes.
Nebraska has an awesome offense this year and apparantly got many
"big" plays in this game.

I can not believe that Coach Osborne would purposely run up the score
against Minnesota and feel that they deserve their No. 1 ranking.

				Jim Erickson
				AT&T - Bell Laboratories IH
				ihuxf!erickson

hart@cp1.UUCP (09/20/83)

nebraska is just a super football team. it
is very hard to hold down the score when your
third string is as powerful as theirs. when
you happen to run up against a team that strong,
you just have to hang in there and try to put a
few points on the score board. remember those
second and third stringers have something
to prove also. you just can't tell a kid to
take it easy when he knows there is a forth
stringer waiting to take his JOB.
believe me, there are #1 and will mix it up
with anyone!

halle1@houxz.UUCP (09/20/83)

Oh, but he did run up the score, at least according to a column I
read today.  It was 56-? late in the third period when their
Heisman candidate tailback who had already scored 2 or 3 times
scored on another long run.  Why was he even in there at all.
He should have been pulled at 42-0, ie at halftime.  He certainly should not
have been in at the end of the 3rd period, 2 TDs later.
Also, a long bomb went for a TD late in the game.  Sub or not, that's
rubbing it in.
Based on these reports, I must conclude that Nebraska did indeed run up
the score.  Osbourn should have stopped it.
(This is not the same as when Georgia Tech played Cumberland.  Then, the
waterboy could have gained 100 yards.  Here, the subs hardly played.)

thor@ihuxw.UUCP (09/20/83)

I really couldn't care less about Nebraska running up the score
of their game, BUT there does seem to be something OBSCENE
about any university that has 100 football players on their team!
(Even if it is just for home games). Sixty players seems like a
reasonable number. It must cost a fortune to support a program
that size-although I am sure Nebraska football brings in megadollars.
100 players sure sounds like overkill to me. Is this what the
founders of college athletics intended? Gee, I wonder how
many of the 100 players actually go to classes at the U. of N.?
Very few of the players currently in the NFL actually completed
their college degrees, yet all went to college. I am <reasonably> sure
the percentage is just as high for those who played in college
but didn't make the NFL, although I don't have figures on it.
I guess I wouldn't care if they didn't call it COLLEGE athletics
or COLLEGE football.
College football seems to imply that these are real students
just playing football for fun- practicing after a long day of classes,
playing on the weekend for school pride, and all that.
How about University Affiliated Minor-League Sports? 

				Mark Kohls
				..!ihnp4!ihuxw!thor

rkp@drufl.UUCP (09/20/83)

I don't know why the Nebraska coach let his team run up such a
rediculous score against Minnesota, but it doesn't show much class.
Just on that account, I have my doubts on the validity of their #1
ranking.

lpa@houxo.UUCP (L.ANDRES) (09/20/83)

Yes, let's hear it for more support for University Affiliated Minor-league
Sports (especially the revenue makers).  I think that President Howard
Swearer (sp?) of Brown University was one of the major proponents of this
idea.  Any other discussion on the net?
				Andy Andres, AT&T CP, Neptune, NJ
				...houxo!lpa

tommyo@ihuxw.UUCP (09/20/83)

I agree totally with Mark on this one.  The college
football programs are nothing but a minor league for the
NFL, just as basketball teams are the training grounds for
NBA-type athletes.  Let`s face reality.  Plus football has
got to be the greatest avenue of revenue for colleges
out of all sports offered, with basketball again coming
in second.  There are plenty of athletes at college that
barely meet admissions standards, and it`s an unproven
but VERY well rumored fact that athletes get breaks when
it comes to grades.  Are these people really learning
more than how to run a double-reverse or become a top
nothch pulling guard?  Of all the football players I`ve
known, I can only think of 1 who was a top student (3.0
or greater).  Most of the ones I knew loved to party and
cause all kinds of havoc on the weekends AND during the
week.  I`ve even heard of an extreme case at a Division
III school, where the football coach tried to pull all
the strings he could to get one of his top running backs
declared scholastically eligible for the fall term so he
could play football.  Why was he ineligible?  All he did
was flunk ALL his classes the previous term, but all the
coach was worried about was winning the conference.  This
is a VERY extreme case, but I`d bet there are plenty of
other incidents of this ilk going on every year.  Why
don`t the pros just donate X amount of dollars to the
NCAA to give to schools to offer to "students" to play
football, and let the colleges and universities give
the scholarship monies that they were directing to the
footballers to students with good academic records.
After all, they are called SCHOLAR-ships.

Tom O`Connor