pector@ihuxw.UUCP (Scott W. Pector) (10/22/83)
With regard to running up scores: 1. Not all college QBs (and I suspect few) call their own plays. When you are a great team and you have a 30 point lead over a lousy team, the coach who is calling the plays can choose those plays that have less chance of being long gainers, etc. This applies regardless of whether the scrubs or subs are in or not. 2. Whether its Iowa vs. NU or Nebraska vs. Minnesota, rubbing a team's nose into the ground stinks. You don't prove anything by it. To argue that this is the sub's chance to be seen is correct, but the sub can execute well on lesser plays and be seen just as well by his coach who knows what the sub's role is. To defend running up scores is to defend a form of bad sportsmanship. In defense of Honor, Scott Pector
tjt@kobold.UUCP (T.J.Teixeira) (10/22/83)
I'm always intrigued by claims that running up scores is bad
sportsmanship. It seems to me that not running up scores (i.e. not
trying to score points) is point-shaving! Even if you're not involved
with betting on the outcome, it still seems unethical to me!
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...!{harpo,decvax,ucbcad,tektronix}!masscomp!tjt (617) 486-9581jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) (10/26/83)
One could argue that NOT running up the score is poor sportsmanship
because it seems to me that not trying to score points against a team
is a big insult to them, whereas running up the score when you apparently
don't need to shows that you think that they may be good enough to come
back despite the astronomical odds against them.
Jeff Richardson
DCIEM, Torontoron@uokvax.UUCP (10/28/83)
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uokvax!ron Oct 25 16:50:00 1983
i just don't know. i guess it depends where you come from, or what kind
of football you like to watch. this weekend i watched ou romp iowa-state
49-11. did i feel bad? (yes, i'm an ou student...)
HELL NO!
in that game ou had 7 (seven!!!) different people score. how many other
teams can say that?? (could northwestern have 7 people score in a season?)
ou attempted 10 passes the entire game (all in the second half from the
second string q-back) you were suggesting running plays where the team
would have less chance to score?? what do you want them to do, have the
q-back drop back and fall down?? ou RAN all over i-s. RAN. in fact, they
ran for 399 yards, two backs over 100 yards for the day. what's
more basic than a simple off tackle dive?? if a team can't stop our
running backs, (yes, even the 4th stringer out there who doesn't even
have his name on the back of his jersey...) they shouldn't complain
or recieve sympathy. they've simply been beat. hell, the only reason
it wasn't worse was ou fumbled (and lost the ball) twice inside i-s's
10 yard line. it was i-s that kept trying the 'big play'. we simply
ran up the middle, THEY threw the ball 35+ times....
i get sick of hearing people put down ou {nebraska...} for crushing
teams. these are quality football teams with BIG(big=high scoring)
offenses. why would they want to run up the score?? do you think
they REALLY care how bad they beat i-s? they're trying to give
everyone some experience for the big games (nebraska, texas...)
people at i-s {northwestern, tcu...} should be glad the BIG offenses
DON'T try to run up the score. you'd be surprised what they can
they can do if they really want to (for example, nebraska's 48
points scored in the 3rd quarter(!!!) against colorado)
let's reverse it all. do you ever see people putting down great
defenses?? do people pitch a fit if they get shut out??
"boy, that really makes me mad. they didn't let us score the
WHOLE game. they should have stuck in their 4th (not 3rd) string
defensive. they should have used defensive sets that allowed our
offense a chance to get more long gainers." see the analogy? doesn't
it sound ridiclous when put in this context??
in defense of quality football, and NOT limiting the scrubs,
ron
ps. sorry mom, sorry dad. (both TCU grads. go horn-frogs!)
...ctvax!uokvax!ronjeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) (11/01/83)
In College football, where rankings are used to determine the top team,
teams should run up the score whenever possible, otherwise their ranking
may suffer.
Jeff Richardson
DCIEM, Torontopector@ihuxw.UUCP (11/08/83)
Well, those wonderful Huskers took no prisoners again! They demolished Iowa State: 72-29. Remember their Minnesota game: 84-13? Seems as if these Nebs want to have U.S. Olympic Women's Basketball Team scores! Some of you justify running up the score out there by saying that nearly all the time it happens because the powerhouse just can't stop scoring since its fourth stringers are better than the down-and-out's first stringers. I still can't buy that premise. A coach can have his team use less potent plays. As far as backups needing to strut their stuff, a good coach can see their efforts in practice or by how they execute whatever plays he calls. Let's face it: do you really need 70-90 points to win convincingly? Will you get that many more votes in the polls if you win by 60 points instead of 30 points against a weak or average team? Scott Pector
halle1@houxz.UUCP (11/08/83)
And for those of you who say, "But how do you stop the 4th stringers?," why did their Heisman candidate (Rozier or something like that) score TWO touchdowns in the FOURTH period, when they were already 20 or 30 points ahead? If that isn't running up the score, then do I have a real estate deal for you...
woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) (11/09/83)
I was going to stay out of this, but...
I feel that it is in fact necessary to run up the score if you are really
interested in a national championship. What do you think all the fans and
sportswriters would be saying if Nebraska beat Iowa State 14-10? Think about
that. What would *you* have thought?
Greg "A Frustrated Colorado Alumnus" Woods
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