[net.sport.football] Canadian "single" in U.S. football?

wales@ucla-cs.UUCP (09/19/84)

It needs to be kept in mind that end zones in the CFL are 25 yards deep,
and that the goal posts are even with the goal lines.  Hence, a failed
field goal attempt in Canadian football is less likely to go all the way
through the end zone, and the receiving team has more of a chance to get
the ball and try to run it out.

Of course, it is also true that a player catching or picking up the ball
deep in the end zone has quite a long distance to run out -- especially
if lots of opposing players are going after him.  Unless the extra point
for the other side would be crucial, the ball carrier will often decide
to go down on one knee in the end zone and give up a point in return for
reasonably good field position on the 35-yard line (but remember that
this is the 35-yard line on a 110-yard-long field).

(In case anyone reading this has no idea what is being talked about,
there is a rule in Canadian football that awards one point to the kick-
ing team if the ball goes out of the end zone, or goes into the end zone
and is not brought out by the other team.  In effect, there is no such
thing as a "touchback" in the Great White North.  This rule does not
apply on a successful field goal -- i.e., a field goal that also goes
out of the end zone still scores only three points -- and it doesn't
apply on a PAT either -- whether successful or not.

One consequence of this rule is that the defending team needs to have
someone in the end zone on a field goal attempt, in case the ball misses
the uprights but still lands in the end zone.  It may also explain why
kickers in the CFL seem to routinely kick so much farther than their
American counterparts -- even if you miss the field goal, you still have
a chance to score a point if the other team can't return your kick.)
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greg@sdcsvax.UUCP (Greg Noel) (09/21/84)

In article <1250@ucla-cs.ARPA> wales@ucla-cs.UUCP (Rich Wales) writes:
>It needs to be kept in mind that end zones in the CFL are 25 yards deep,
>and that the goal posts are even with the goal lines.  Hence, a failed
>field goal attempt in Canadian football is less likely to go all the way
>through the end zone, and the receiving team has more of a chance to get
>the ball and try to run it out.

True.  I would modify the Canadian rule so that a ball that goes out the
back of the end zone without being touched (by either team) would be a
touchback as it is now.  This wouldn't change the field-goal kicking game
very much, but just think what it would do to the punting game.....  The
tactics would change a lot.  Instead of kicking for the coffin corner or
trying to make a punt die without crossing the goal line, the punter would
try to make the punt die in the end zone for a point.  This would be an
added bonus to a team for having good field position, even if they can't
score a touchdown or a field goal.  I think it would add a lot of interest
to a football game -- it's enough so that, if two teams are otherwise
equal, the one that plays the better positional game would have a narrow
advantage.

I remember watching one game (this was many years ago) where after three
quarters, there had been one field goal and five singles, and the score
was 4-4.  I had to leave at that point and I never did find out how the
game turned out.  Does anybody else remember that game?  I think one of
the teams was the Lions, but I'm not even sure of that.
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lab@qubix.UUCP (Q-Bick) (10/02/84)

I can see one result on the rouge in the NFL - Ray Guy would win every
game for the Raiders!
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