[net.sport.football] Oklahoma-Texas Game

jss@brunix.UUCP (Judith Schrier) (10/14/84)

The following is presented as a public service, as well as a favor
to a friend (wonder why he didn't sign his name...). It in no way
represents the opinion of jss herself, or any member of her immediate
family.

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I've never seen such a blatant and disgusting example of biassed,
incompetent, and dishonest refereeing of a game before.  The Oklahoma
defender was CLEARLY in possession of the ball inbounds on that
next-to-last play.  I hope that Oklahoma protests that game from now
till Christmas.


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ables@cyb-eng.UUCP (King Ables) (10/22/84)

OU was robbed?  What about when the OU punter (don't know his name)
caught the snap from center on his knee??  Shouldn't he have been
down and Texas had the ball at that spot (if you're unsure, the
answer is "Yes").

Actually, I think both teams were robbed fairly evenly.  The officiating
was pretty bad and the playing conditions were even worse.  It's really
too bad that such an important game had to be played there.  We played
Arkansas in Austin this week and the field was just as soggy if not
more so, but the footing was much better (plus the sun came out in
the 2nd half).

Sure, OU was robbed some, but Barry doesn't have to be an asshole
about it.  They're not going to change it, so just say "Well, I
don't think you were right" and forget it.

Besides, OU will never beat OSU *and* Nebraska :-).
Course, we still have to worry about SMU and TCU (Yes, I said TCU).

Hook 'em Horns!
-King
...ut-sally!cyb-eng!ables

isiw@druri.UUCP (WattIS) (10/23/84)

HEY, YOU STUPID OKIE! I noticed you missed one EXTREMELY IMPORTANT POINT -
The Texas receiver was INTERFERED with before, during, and after the
alleged interception (An Okie interception - like an Okie credit card,
totally illegal and probably imaginary)!!!!!

If your own conference's REFEREE (I use the term loosely) had been 
keeping his eye on the play instead of looking for a place to plant
next year's soybeans with this year's government subsidy, he would
have seen the OBVIOUS infraction. Oh well.

At least we had the wonderful and sublime pleasure of watching Barry
"If You Can't Beat 'Em, Buy 'Em" Switzer giving away the game not
once but twice with his redneck coaching decisions - first, by 
trying to go for two points against the best defense in the nation,
and second for taking an intentional safety.

Oh, and by the way, did you happen to notice how many starters on
the Oklahoma side of the fence were from Texas? Around 75 percent.
I guess the bumper sticker is still true - "OU - The Best Texans
Money Can Buy".

HOOK 'EM HORNS!

Davis Tucker
AT&T Information Systems
Denver, CO

tron@fluke.UUCP (Peter Barbee) (10/26/84)

>> trying to go for two points against the best defense in the nation,

Oh! Oh! I beg to differ, the University of Washington Huskies (currently
ranked #1) have the best defense in the nation.

Proof?  Well they sure don't have the best offense (in fact their offense
is barely acceptable) so their defense has to be fantastic.  It is.


Bow down to Washington

Peter Barbee

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dwhitney@uok.UUCP (10/29/84)

While I am an injured Sooner, recovering from our loss to
(burp) Kansas, I must beg to differ with all of you.  If
anyone happens to catch the official NCAA defensive rankings
Oklahoma's defense is the best in the nation.

About Winchester' punt:  If he had first gained control
of the ball, and then gone down, the ball would be dead at
that point.  But, the impetus of the snap forced him to
drop down to 1 knee to get it.  That according to twoo
different radio stations (indifferent to either team((
explained it.

About the interception:  Unfortunately, The Eyes Of Texas
are too blind to see the obvious; that the end-zone contact
was incidental.  But I don't expect that to change the minds
of those too blind to see.

Unfortunately, the OU that lost to Kansas is not the same
team that beat Texas (yes, Beat Texas.  Fred Akers couldn't
win a big game without the officials; just ask SMU..)
Danny Bradley, starting QB, was out with a sprained ankle
and a hand injury; since our original #2 QB was declared
ineligible, we were forced to start who would have been a
redshirt Freshman.  Our starting fullback has a broken knee
acp, our starting split end had stomach flu.  Result?  Offense
can't do too much.

And it gets worse.  We just lost two defensive starters to
injury in a terrible car accident.  Fortunately, they'll both
be allright but it'll be a least 9  months for rehabilitation
for both players, according to news reports.

As for the OU rosterr consisting of 75% Texas folk, well,
while the percentage is of course, wrong, it speaks well
of those who knew that there was nothing in Texas worth
staying for.

As for Washington, while I have no personal antipathy for
them, I feel as a #1 team they are a joke.  They'll have
plenty of chances to be beaten.

Boomer Sooner

David Whitney
!ctvax!uokvax!uok!dwhitney

bruhgraw@uok.UUCP (10/29/84)

Why does Texas always seem to win (or tie) on a lousy call or some such?
If you thought the out-of-bounds call in the OU-Texas game was bad, you
should have seen the one against SMU this week (10/27).  On 4th and goal,
the SMU quarterback threw a pass into the end zone and the Longhorn player
CLEARLY pushed the receiver down to the ground long before the ball got
there.  Naturally there was no flag, and Texas got the ball and proceeded
to run out the clock and win 13-7.

I don't pay too much attention to college football, and I could care less
who is ranked where at the end of the season.  But the one thing I am
going to root for from here on out is that Texas gets what's coming to
them, and starts losing like they should have been all along.

					Bruce
					ctvax!uokvax!uok!bruhgraw

lor@ucla-cs.UUCP (10/30/84)

	Too much is talked about the official's bad call on
interception. Hey, honestly, did Oklahoma deserved to win?
Here are my points:

1) If Barry Switzer opted to give up a safety, he should have known
   Texas might be able to drive to field-goal range from that good
   field position. You never give up an intentional safety when you 
   lead by no more than 5 points with lots of time left. When you do, 
   you are chicken and do not deserve to win.

2) I have never seen such a stupid intentional safety. Look at the pros
   and see how they do it.  When you give up two points on a punt, 
   you usually snap the ball to the punter and let
   him run out some time. But the Oklahoma center simply snapped the
   ball out of the end zone. This is not even fundamental football!

3) Before the 'almost' interception, Texas is already in field goal 
   range. If Texas did not opt to go for the win, the 'near' interception 
   would never occur. So, Texas should not win it but they certainly 
   deserved a tie.


When you complain about the outcome of the game, don't just look at 
one single play or one bad call from the official. One play does not
constitute a game.

P.S. I am not a Texan or a Longhorn fan.

					Eddy Lor
					...!ucbvax!ucla-cs!lor
					lor@ucla-cs

dwhitney@uok.UUCP (11/08/84)

Well, if you had bothered to watch the FIRST play of that
drive, the Texas receiver on a pass play drops the ball 
when hit; a clear fumble.  One replay showed the ref marking
the ball and giving possession to OU; but the other overruled
him.  Yes, one play does not a game make, but in this case had
the refs called a fumbled a fumble, the interception in the end
zon
would have made no difference.

About the intentional safety:
Let's assume the Man from UCLA is right.  Get the ball, run around,
fall down, run a few seconds off.  Don't forget, however, that a 
slick ball already caused him to drop one snap in the end zone;
do it again and you could give up a touchdown.  Try to kick that
deep in the endzone and the other team puts on any rush, a blcok
could end up in a touchdown.

Sorry, friend, but the intentional safety WAS the smart thing to do;
what the refs did was not.  You are correct in that one play does ot
a game make; but the three plays the refs blew, in this case, certainly
did.

David Whitney
Look Out Nebraska, 'cause Here We Come...
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lor@ucla-cs.UUCP (11/21/84)

> Well, if you had bothered to watch the FIRST play of that
> drive, the Texas receiver on a pass play drops the ball 
> when hit; a clear fumble.  One replay showed the ref marking
> the ball and giving possession to OU; but the other overruled
> him.  Yes, one play does not a game make, but in this case had
> the refs called a fumbled a fumble, the interception in the end
> zon
> would have made no difference.
> 
> About the intentional safety:
> Let's assume the Man from UCLA is right.  Get the ball, run around,
> fall down, run a few seconds off.  Don't forget, however, that a 
> slick ball already caused him to drop one snap in the end zone;
> do it again and you could give up a touchdown.  Try to kick that
> deep in the endzone and the other team puts on any rush, a blcok
> could end up in a touchdown.
> 
> Sorry, friend, but the intentional safety WAS the smart thing to do;
> what the refs did was not.  You are correct in that one play does ot
> a game make; but the three plays the refs blew, in this case, certainly
> did.
> 
> David Whitney
> Look Out Nebraska, 'cause Here We Come...
> ctvax!uokvax!uok!dwhitney

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lor@ucla-cs.UUCP (11/21/84)

** Sorry for the previous article. I messed up when posting this article.

> You are correct in that one play does ot
> a game make; but the three plays the refs blew, in this case, certainly
> did.

	Is Texas unbeatable? Look how Houston beat Texas? They 
did not try to hang on a five point lead, gave up a safety, and 
then complained about the officials in the final field goal drive
(even the officials might be wrong.)
You want to beat Texas, you beat them in the entire game, like intercept
them five times, and even return an interception for a touchdown.
In the Houston game (which Houston won 29-15), even if Texas got a gifted
touchdown from the ref in their final drive, Houston still won!

	When was the last time Texas got whipped by two touchdowns? I 
hope that was not Oklahoma!



					Eddy Lor
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					lor@ucla-locus.arpa