[net.sport.football] BYU #1

mlb@drutx.UUCP (BurnsML) (11/30/84)

How can BYU lay claim to being #1 in the country
with the schedule that they play? There's no
doubt that Oklahoma University deserves the #1
ranking. Also, Barry Switzer is a GOOD coach - 
a lot of schools would love to have him as head
coach.

lor@ucla-cs.UUCP (12/03/84)

> How can BYU lay claim to being #1 in the country
> with the schedule that they play? There's no
> doubt that Oklahoma University deserves the #1
> ranking. Also, Barry Switzer is a GOOD coach - 
> a lot of schools would love to have him as head
> coach.

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lor@ucla-cs.UUCP (12/03/84)

> How can BYU lay claim to being #1 in the country
> with the schedule that they play? There's no
> doubt that Oklahoma University deserves the #1
> ranking. Also, Barry Switzer is a GOOD coach - 
> a lot of schools would love to have him as head
> coach.

If Oklahoma is ranked #1, Kansas sure will claim they should be
#1 because they whipped Oklahoma. If Kansas is #1, several teams
can also say they are #1 because they beat Kansas.

This college football rankings is the most ridiculous method to 
determine a champion. In all sports events in the world, there are
only two legitimate ways to determine the champions:

1) A knockout tournament.
2) A League system, when every team plays all other teams. The team
   with the best record become the champ.

All sports events in America, except college football, use the 
knockout system in the playoff to determine the champions. On the
other hand, all European soccer leagues use the league system to 
get the winner. 

Now, go back to college football. After Oklahoma beat Nebraska 
(and who else they beat is a powerhouse? OSU is not a powerhouse), 
they claimed to be the #1 team. Have they proved they are better 
than Florida, BYU, and Washington? If not, how can they say they 
are the champ? Well! neither BYU nor Washington has proved they are the
best among the powers. So this system actually sucks!

Think about this: In a tennis tournament,
Ivan Lendl beat Conners, Vilas, Wilander, Kriek and Gerulaitus, 
while John McEnroe beat a bunch of no-names. 
But Lendl is not schedule to play McEnroe. 
They gave the trophy to Lendl because he played a tougher schedule.
Do you think this is fair? Should the fans take this tournament seriously?

You may say college football has already used this system for many years.
This system may be as old as granddaddy. It has already produced forty plus
legitimate national champions. Well, old system does not mean good system.
Do we fans have to like it just because it is old?


					Eddy Lor
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					lor@ucla-locus.arpa

dwhitney@uok.UUCP (12/10/84)

(I've never heard of tennis analogzied to the college footbal polls
in quite that way.  But when BYU wins some Wimbledon titles, maybe
I'll give the analogy some credit :-)     )

OU will have the chance to prove its superiority over Washington
in the Orange Bowl.  If they beat them, having beaten two other #1s,
and a #2, while BYU has played #???  I feel their case is complete
and unarguable.

But I do agree that this whole argument clearly demonstrates the
desperate need for a college playoff; that BYU may be #1 is sickening
enough, but that no one with a claim to #1 will have the chance to 
beat them directly.  That's a crime.

David Whitney
ctvax!uokvax!uok!dwhitney