mcp@druor.UUCP (PaughMC) (11/14/85)
To those who think that Denver fans are pig spit (or worse): PLEASE, do not get the impression that all Broncos fans are like the fool that threw the snowball! I have yet to talk to anyone here in Denver that thinks the snowball incident was good. I have also seen worse incidents at other stadiums around the NFL. I agree that the officials should have called a penalty on the play and the 49'ers would have had first and goal. The City and the Broncos organization have announced that extra security forces will be at the games when there is snow in the stands. Anyone caught throwing snowballs (or anything else) onto the field will be taken away from the game and prosecuted by the City. The Broncos also said that any season ticket holders caught throwing things will lose their season tickets. Now, to most of these people their season tickets mean more than life, and it takes about a lifetime to get from the bottom of the waiting list to the top. I know that the above actions do not make up for what happened Monday night. I also know that, if the Broncos go anywhere this year, this game and the snowball incident will be cited as a turning point. This will be especially true if they should win the AFC West by one game, or if the 49'ers should lose their division by one game. But, as I said above, please do not base your opinions of Denver or the football fans here on one asshole. _____________________________________________________________________________ | Mike Paugh AT&T ISL Denver ihnp4!drutx!druxq!mcp | | | | "Sometimes I think that life is just a rodeo. The trick is to ride, and | | make it to the bell." John Fogerty | |___________________________________________________________________________|
stevev@tekchips.UUCP (Steve Vegdahl) (11/15/85)
>PLEASE, do not get the impression that all Broncos fans are like >the fool that threw the snowball! I have yet to talk to anyone >here in Denver that thinks the snowball incident was good. I agree and disagree with the above statement: AGREE => Yes, you can't blame 75K fans for the action of one. DISAGREE => There must have been quite a few Bronco fans that approved (at the time at least), or the fans sitting near him in the stands would have turned him in. >I have also seen worse incidents at other stadiums around the >NFL. Yes, fan interference is getting out of hand. Take Seattle, for example. In this case you can blame ALL Seahawk fans (or a high percentage of them anyway). They clearly and boisterously and consistently approve of the disrupting the game by making so much noise that the other team cannot hear their own signals being called. How 'bout this for a penalty against fans when a crowd is disrupted: Penalize the team one home game. E.g., the Broncos are playing in Kingdome, and the fans interfere by making an unreasonable amount of noise. Next season, both Bronco-Seahawk games are played in Denver; the Seahawks get 7 home games that year and the Broncos get 9. It does penalize the team somewhat for the actions of their fans, but it SIGNIFICANTLY penalizes the fans. Of course, there should be a significant amount of warning given to the fans. >The Broncos also said that any season ticket holders caught >throwing things will lose their season tickets. Now, to most of >these people their season tickets mean more than life, and it >takes about a lifetime to get from the bottom of the waiting >list to the top. I can vouch (indirectly) for that. My sister moved to Denver from Minneapolis a couple years ago. She says that she has never seen fans like Bronco fans. During a Bronco game, the streets in Denver are deserted; the crime rate goes down to almost zero (even the crooks in Denver make the Broncos their #1 priority). >I know that the above actions do not make up for what happened >Monday night. I also know that, if the Broncos go anywhere this >year, this game and the snowball incident will be cited as a >turning point. This will be especially true if they should win >the AFC West by one game, or if the 49'ers should lose their >division by one game. I am a Niner/Raider fan, so Monday's result was doubly-disappointing to me. However, blown ref calls, weather, fan interference (unfortunately) are all part of the game, just like "the way the ball bounces". If a team (e.g., the Niners) significantly outplays another, a few breaks rarely make the difference. For close games, you've got to expect that you'll lose some due to "luck". Such things tend to balance out in the long run. The Niners clearly did not "sigificantly outplay" the Broncos on Monday. Steve Vegdahl Computer Research Lab. Tektronix, Inc. Beaverton, Oregon