tbg@apollo.uucp (Tom Gross) (01/18/86)
The PATRIOTS will win the SUPERBOWL.
Here's how:
They will stop the BEAR'S offense completely.
The Chicago offense is not as good as either Marcus Allen
or Dan Marino. Walter Payton has never rushed
for as much as 50 yards in a game against the
PATS. Jim McMahon may be Danny Ainge's favorite
NFL player but he will be too busy this week
deciding what to wear around his head to prepare
for the football game. Willie Gault will be covered
by Raymond Clayborn. I am not sure whether McMahon
will have Dan Marino's audacity and try to throw
on Clayborn but I hope so.
On offense the PAT'S VETERAN offensive
LINE will completely dominate the BEAR'S linemen,
who include a Patriot's reject and a ROOKIE
from Clemson. The Pats will play an extremely
boring RUN RUN RUN offense and will only pass on
2nd and 2. The Patriots will be able to RUN on
the BEARS. People will suddenly remember why
the Pat's offensive line is so highly regarded,
just as they were reminded last week against
Miami that you don't throw in Raymond Clayborn's
area.
Final Score: Pats 29 (2 TDs, 5 Field Goals)
Bars 12 (1 TD, 1 FG, 1 Safety)
The safety will occur early in the game giving
the BEARS a 2-0 lead. The PATS will regroup
after the west coast changes channels and launch
a short march to the BEARS 25 yard line where they
will kick a field goal (Pats lead 3-2). Chicago
punts, New England marches to the Bear's 32 and
kicks ANOTHER field goal; Pats lead 6-2. Walter Payton
fumbles on the Chicago 33 yard line and the PATS
score the first TD of the game on PROBABLY a
Craig James option pass to STEVE MOORE (unlikely,
but that's what the muse says). Pats lead 13-2.
Walter Payton fumbles AGAIN, this time after catching
a screen pass. (I know what you're all thinking:
this prediction is based on the BEARS having a lot
of turnovers and that it's the only way the PATRIOTS
could POSSIBLY WIN. I say that's a moot point;
we'll never know how the PATS' playoff opponents would
have fared without all the turnovers because that's
what happened. What are the patriots supposed to do,
give the ball back?) New England kicks another
field goal after Payton's second fumble: Pats lead
16-2 at half.
Chicago will fumble a kickoff in the 3rd quarter, after
which the PATS will score another TD. Pats lead 23-2.
Tony Franklin will kick 2 more field goals to set a
single game Superbowl record.
Fred Marion will intercept a pass on the PATS
12 yard line late in the game as BEARS try to come
back.
I will make one more prediction:
Even after the PATS have beaten the BEARS people
will say it was a fluke; they were lucky; the
raiders and bears are "really" better teams
(by some unknown set of rules). Only NEXT
YEAR, after Clayton Weishuhn returns to join
Nelson, Blackmon, and Tippet will people start
to really notice the PATRIOTS. Maybe by the
8th game next year the PATS won't beat the spread.
Kill them BARS,
Tom Gross
Apollo Computer, Inc.nsfadm@ihuxa.UUCP (D L Fupler) (01/21/86)
> On offense the PAT'S VETERAN offensive > LINE will completely dominate the BEAR'S linemen, > who include a Patriot's reject and a ROOKIE > from Clemson. The Pats will play an extremely > boring RUN RUN RUN offense and will only pass on > 2nd and 2. The Patriots will be able to RUN on > the BEARS. People will suddenly remember why > the Pat's offensive line is so highly regarded, > just as they were reminded last week against > Miami that you don't throw in Raymond Clayborn's > area. Don`t forget that the RAMS line was just as highly regarded ( if not more ) as the PATS line .... and Dickerson was stumped. The Bears led the league in the (+-) ratio in turnover ( I believe they were +31 ). I don`t see the PATS stripping the ball away from the BEARS like they did with the Fish, Raiders and the Jets... And for all of you folks who say the Bears lack offense. They were 3rd in the NFL in total points scored behind the Chargers and the Bengels.... its not flashy,, but it does get the job done... The only way I see the Bears losing is by beating themselves. I hope the Bears to hold their opponents scoreless in the Super Bowl and be known for the most dominating teams of all time ..... Bears 17 PATS 0 BC
moore1@ihuxi.UUCP (Moore) (01/22/86)
> > The PATRIOTS will win the SUPERBOWL. > > Here's how: > > They will stop the BEAR'S offense completely. > The Chicago offense is not as good as either Marcus Allen > or Dan Marino. Walter Payton has never rushed > for as much as 50 yards in a game against the > PATS. Jim McMahon may be Danny Ainge's favorite > NFL player but he will be too busy this week > deciding what to wear around his head to prepare > for the football game. Willie Gault will be covered > by Raymond Clayborn. I am not sure whether McMahon > will have Dan Marino's audacity and try to throw > on Clayborn but I hope so. > Of course. I thought McMahon's courage was a given. > On offense the PAT'S VETERAN offensive > LINE will completely dominate the BEAR'S linemen, > who include a Patriot's reject and a ROOKIE > from Clemson. The Pats will play an extremely > boring RUN RUN RUN offense and will only pass on > 2nd and 2. The Patriots will be able to RUN on > the BEARS. People will suddenly remember why > the Pat's offensive line is so highly regarded, > just as they were reminded last week against > Miami that you don't throw in Raymond Clayborn's > area. > Yeah, I agree. The Pats will play an extremely boring game...losing is always boring, right? > Final Score: Pats 29 (2 TDs, 5 Field Goals) > Bars 12 (1 TD, 1 FG, 1 Safety) > Although your totals above may be right, you've obviously made a mistake in the placement of the team names. Just reverse the order and you'll feel better, I'm sure. > The safety will occur early in the game giving > the BEARS a 2-0 lead. The PATS will regroup > after the west coast changes channels and launch > a short march to the BEARS 25 yard line where they > will kick a field goal (Pats lead 3-2). Chicago > punts, New England marches to the Bear's 32 and > kicks ANOTHER field goal; Pats lead 6-2. Walter Payton > fumbles on the Chicago 33 yard line and the PATS > score the first TD of the game on PROBABLY a > Craig James option pass to STEVE MOORE (unlikely, > but that's what the muse says). Pats lead 13-2. > Walter Payton fumbles AGAIN, this time after catching > a screen pass. (I know what you're all thinking: > this prediction is based on the BEARS having a lot > of turnovers and that it's the only way the PATRIOTS > could POSSIBLY WIN. I say that's a moot point; > we'll never know how the PATS' playoff opponents would > have fared without all the turnovers because that's > what happened. What are the patriots supposed to do, > give the ball back?) New England kicks another > field goal after Payton's second fumble: Pats lead > 16-2 at half. > Dream on, buddy. Payton may fumble, but the Bears defense is so strong they'll obviously recover their own fumbles. > Chicago will fumble a kickoff in the 3rd quarter, after > which the PATS will score another TD. Pats lead 23-2. > > Tony Franklin will kick 2 more field goals to set a > single game Superbowl record. > > Fred Marion will intercept a pass on the PATS > 12 yard line late in the game as BEARS try to come > back. > > I will make one more prediction: > > Even after the PATS have beaten the BEARS people > will say it was a fluke; they were lucky; the > raiders and bears are "really" better teams > (by some unknown set of rules). Only NEXT > YEAR, after Clayton Weishuhn returns to join > Nelson, Blackmon, and Tippet will people start > to really notice the PATRIOTS. Maybe by the > 8th game next year the PATS won't beat the spread. > The Bears will beat the Pats, but is sure as Hell won't be a fluke. I pity the poor Pats. They're gonna get tromped. > Kill them BARS, > > Tom Gross > Apollo Computer, Inc. *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) (01/23/86)
> > On offense the PAT'S VETERAN offensive > > LINE will completely dominate the BEAR'S linemen, > > who include a Patriot's reject and a ROOKIE > > from Clemson. The Pats will play an extremely > > boring RUN RUN RUN offense and will only pass on > > 2nd and 2. The Patriots will be able to RUN on > > the BEARS. People will suddenly remember why > > the Pat's offensive line is so highly regarded, > > just as they were reminded last week against > > Miami that you don't throw in Raymond Clayborn's > > area. > > Don`t forget that the RAMS line was just as highly regarded ( if not > more ) as the PATS line .... and Dickerson was stumped. I don't know about that. The Rams line had four pro-bowlers, but one was injured, and I feel the others were questionable choices. Anyway, the Pats have a much more consistent quarterback, at least over the last half season, than LA. And the Pat's running game is more than one runner. > The Bears led the league in the (+-) ratio in turnover ( I believe > they were +31 ). I don`t see the PATS stripping the ball away from > the BEARS like they did with the Fish, Raiders and the Jets... Very true. > And for all of you folks who say the Bears lack offense. They > were 3rd in the NFL in total points scored behind the Chargers and > the Bengels.... its not flashy,, but it does get the job done... Oh no you don't! You can't slip that one by! Many of those points were scored by the defense. MANY. Their offense is not that great. Of course, it hasn't had to be. > The only way I see the Bears losing is by beating themselves. Any fan can say that. We'll see. > I hope the Bears to hold their opponents scoreless in the Super Bowl > and be known for the most dominating teams of all time ..... It'll take more than one Superbowl win to justify such a statement. Don't forget the Packers won 5 titles in 7 years, and the Steelers won 4 in 6 years. That's dominating. And as for the rushing defense, which a few recent postings have called the best ever, don't forget the Steeler defense, which one year faced Oakland and Minnesota (Chuck Foreman) in the AFC title game and Superbowl, and surrendered a combined total of under 50 yards rushing! Paul Benjamin
ekblaw@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU (01/27/86)
Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! Robert A. Ekblaw
franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) (01/28/86)
In article <560@philabs.UUCP> dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) writes: >> And for all of you folks who say the Bears lack offense. They >> were 3rd in the NFL in total points scored behind the Chargers and >> the Bengels.... its not flashy,, but it does get the job done... > >Oh no you don't! You can't slip that one by! Many of those points >were scored by the defense. MANY. Their offense is not that great. >Of course, it hasn't had to be. Well, this is partly hindsight at this point, but I would say the Bear's offense *is* that great -- they just haven't had to show it. Besides the Super Bowl, take a look at the game up in Minnesota. In Miami, McMahon was still injured; I believe if he had been 100% when he went in, the Bears would have pulled that game out. No way to tell, of course. Certainly, McMahon was able to burn the Patriots long -- something few other teams managed this year. (I do wish the man would grow up, but that is no reflection on his ability.) Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108
jmh@ltuxa.UUCP (Jon M. Hanrath) (01/29/86)
In article <13000101@uiucdcs> ekblaw@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU writes: > >Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best >Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > >Robert A. Ekblaw I know the Pack is 2-0, but I also know that they beat the Raiders in the second Super Bowl. So how can they be 4:0? Or don't you count the times they lost -:). Jon Hanrath ihnp4!ltuxa!jmh
eagle@ihlpg.UUCP (John Blumenstein) (01/29/86)
> > Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best > Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > > Robert A. Ekblaw I don't remember the exact article but I assume the author meant 3 NFL championships and 2 SuperBowl. -- John T. Blumenstein ihlpg!eagle -------------------------------------------------------------------- Sulu: "They say she has transwarp drive." Scotty: "Aye, and if my mother had wheels she would be a wagon."
dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) (01/30/86)
Frank Adams writes: > In article <560@philabs.UUCP> dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) writes: > >> And for all of you folks who say the Bears lack offense. They > >> were 3rd in the NFL in total points scored behind the Chargers and > >> the Bengels.... its not flashy,, but it does get the job done... > > > >Oh no you don't! You can't slip that one by! Many of those points > >were scored by the defense. MANY. Their offense is not that great. > >Of course, it hasn't had to be. > > Well, this is partly hindsight at this point, but I would say the Bear's > offense *is* that great -- they just haven't had to show it. Besides the > Super Bowl, take a look at the game up in Minnesota. I really don't think the Bears offense is that great. It's good, but not the third best in the league. They feed off the defense. I can think of several offenses which are much better, but unfortunately labor for teams with terrible defenses. Can you imagine the Chargers' offense with the Bears defense? Now THAT would be great. (Or Miami's offense, or Cincinnati's.) Paul Benjamin
dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) (01/30/86)
> > Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best > Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > > Robert A. Ekblaw Packers won five championships, chi (er chu, (er cha))mp! There was an NFL before the Superbowl. Paul Benjamin
dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) (01/30/86)
> > Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best > Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > > Robert A. Ekblaw Oh, and another note. The Pittsburgh Steelers are NOT the Oakland/LA Raiders. Paul Benjamin
ins_asac@jhunix.UUCP (Stephan Alexa Cooper) (01/31/86)
In article <1098@mmintl.UUCP> franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) writes: >In article <560@philabs.UUCP> dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) writes: >>> And for all of you folks who say the Bears lack offense. They >>> were 3rd in the NFL in total points scored behind the Chargers and >>> the Bengels.... its not flashy,, but it does get the job done... >>Oh no you don't! You can't slip that one by! Many of those points >>were scored by the defense. MANY. Their offense is not that great. > >Well, this is partly hindsight at this point, but I would say the Bear's >offense *is* that great -- they just haven't had to show it. Besides the >Super Bowl, take a look at the game up in Minnesota. > >In Miami, McMahon was still injured; I believe if he had been 100% when >he went in, the Bears would have pulled that game out. No way to tell, >of course. > >Certainly, McMahon was able to burn the Patriots long -- something few >other teams managed this year. And what of the vast array of not-so-common plays that they not only had in their books, but used on the field? Now some people might say that the Bears HAD to use trick plays to win...but if it works, what does it matter? After all, six points is still six points. Besides, the trick plays make the Bears not only an unpredictable opponent, but a team that almost guarantees an entertaining win... -- Steve Cooper Johns Hopkins University Homewood Computing Facility ...!seismo!umcp-cs!jhunix!ins_asac ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But it was just fantasy "When I was a child, I had a fever The wall was too high My hands felt just like two balloons, as you can see... Now I've got that feeling once again no matter how he tried I can't explain he could not break free You would not understand and the worms ate into his brain." This is not how I am..." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ccs020@ucdavis.UUCP (Kevin Chu) (01/31/86)
> > Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best > Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > > Robert A. Ekblaw You check it, sport. The Pittsburg Steelers are 4-0. The Raiders are 3-1. -- Kevin Chu [UUCP] !{ucbvax,lll-crg}!ucdavis!vega!ccs020 [ARPA] ucdavis!vega!ccs020@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
abbajay@oracle.UUCP (Dave Abbajay) (02/01/86)
In article <13000101@uiucdcs>, ekblaw@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU writes: > > Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best > Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > > Robert A. Ekblaw WRONG WRONG WRONG!! Pittsburg is the ONLY Super Bowl team with a 4-0 record. I suggest you "check it" chump! Oakland/LA has a 3-1 record. The Raiders have the distinction of losing the first (or second) Super Bowl to the Packers. -- Dave Abbajay Senior Technical Staff ORACLE Corporation (415)854-7350 hplabs!oracle!abbajay
lor@ucla-cs.UUCP (02/02/86)
> >Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best >Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > >Robert A. Ekblaw Well, the Packers did win five Super Bowls: 1968 SB II (33-14 vs Oakland) 1967 SB I (35-10 vs Kansas City) 1966 SB -I (23-12 vs Cleveland) 1963 SB -IV (16-7 vs N.Y. Giants) 1962 SB -V (37-0 vs N.Y. Giants) -- Eddy Lor ...!(ihnp4,ucbvax)!ucla-cs!lor lor@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU Computer Science Department, UCLA
suhina@kodak.UUCP (brian suhina) (02/03/86)
> > Packers won five Super Bowls? News to me, chu (er, cha)mp! The best > Super Bowl record is 4:0, compiled by the Oakland/LA Raiders. Check it! > > Robert A. Ekblaw Are you saying the Raiders have a won-loss record of 4 wins and no losses in the super bowl? Funny I don't remember them beating Green Bay. Why don't YOU check the Steelers super bowl record. Brian Suhina