rjs@hpfcla.UUCP (12/03/85)
>Of course Dennis hopes to win. His 1983 defeat was the first time the Cup >was taken from the U.S. since 1851. This assumes that Dennis can beat the team of Buddy Melges and Gary Jobson. Remember that since the N.Y. yacht club no longer holds the trophy, any USA yacht club (considered to be on an ocean) can supply a boat to compete. Dennis will have to defeat any USA competetion before he can even hope to compete for the cup. Buddy and Gary should prove to be quite a team! As for the first defeat since 1851, as I understand it 1983 was the first time they had a chance. It is my understanding that prior to 1983 they (other countries) were required to sail (ie. they couldn't be shipped over) their boats over to the USA and were also required to use only equipment from their country. Bob Schneider ihnp4!hpfcla!hpfcll!rjs
eaf@panda.UUCP (Eric A. Freeman) (12/09/85)
>As for the first defeat since 1851, as I understand it 1983 was the >first time they had a chance. It is my understanding that prior to 1983 >they (other countries) were required to sail (ie. they couldn't be >shipped over) their boats over to the USA and were also required to use >only equipment from their country. They were not required to sail their boats to Newport. A voyage across an open ocean would destroy a 12 meter. These boats are only built to race and have no berthing accomadations. However, you are correct in stating that they were required to use only equipment from their own country. Eric A. Freeman genrad!panda!eaf
geoff@ncr-sd.UUCP (Geoffrey Walton) (12/10/85)
> > >Of course Dennis hopes to win. His 1983 defeat was the first time the Cup > >was taken from the U.S. since 1851. > . > . > . > > As for the first defeat since 1851, as I understand it 1983 was the > first time they had a chance. It is my understanding that prior to 1983 > they (other countries) were required to sail (ie. they couldn't be > shipped over) their boats over to the USA and were also required to use > only equipment from their country. > > Bob Schneider > ihnp4!hpfcla!hpfcll!rjs *** MASSAGE THIS LINE WITH YOUR REPLACEMENT *** Actually, this is only half true. Prior to the 1983 challenge all materials, and the design, had to originate from the challenging country. The story of Baron Biche buying a Swiss boatyard, and moving it across the border into France, in order to compete is a tribute to the power of the buck, er franc. As for sailing to the trials, this WAS true, but only when the sailing was done in "J" and "K" (I think those are the right classes) class boats, and it didn't matter then: the yachts were 130+ feet and had crews of 40+. Beside, who'd be crazy enough to attempt a transatlantic crossing in a twelve? No nav lights, lifelines, galley, loran or radio (well, not really) would make for a dangerous, not to mention uncomfortable, trip. :r all usual disclaimers Geoff Walton NCR E&M San Diego {wherever}!ucbvax!sdcsvax!ncr-sd!geoff Even the smallest problen becomes unsolvable if enough meetings are held to discuss it.