[net.politics] socialism, capitalism, and strikes

soreff (02/21/83)

I don't believe that the right to strike should (in theory) be considered
a SOCIALIST right.  In order for there to a free labor market, it must
be possible for employers and employees to terminate jobs freely.  If
employers can conduct or threaten mass layoffs then employees must be
able to quit or threaten to quit en masse.  In practice, of course,
"authoritarian" "capitalist" countries tend to discourage strikes more
forcefully than they discourage mass layoffs.  Even in the US, some of
methods used to discourage strikes in the past have been quite bloody.
			-Jeffrey Soreff (hplabsb!soreff)

turner (02/24/83)

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ucbesvax!turner    Feb 23 23:15:00 1983

    Jeff, 

	I agree with this, and I hope that nothing I've said so far makes
    you think that the "right" to strike (a little more complicated than
    that, I'll allow) is a strictly socialist idea.  In fact, there is over-
    whelming evidence that unions dominated by Communist and socialist
    parties have often played the role of strike-breaker, when this was
    the only way they could get their hands on state power.

	Solidarity is only the most recent example of this.  There were
    and are unions in Poland apart from Solidarity, but they were party-
    controlled.  Italy, France, and Spain would seem to be different, in
    that they are not Soviet satellites, and their respective Communist
    parties have never held total state power.  But in each of these non-
    Communist states, the CP holds fantastic power over union activity.

	In Italy, the CP formed the "Historic Compromise" coalition with a
    center-RIGHT Christion Democrats, with the understanding that it would
    take part in a general crackdown on leftist groups and autonomous [i.e.
    non-CP-aligned] unions -- under the general smear campaign of "Wipe Out
    Terrorism".  For a while there [1977-1980], Italy led NATO in the number
    of persons held in prison without charge (around 1200).

	In France, the CP has a similar degree of union control.  In 1968,
    during a general strike, the CP had to face the very real possibility
    of a revolution in which they were not necessarily guaranteed any
    resulting power.  That is, workers were striking WITHOUT BEING TOLD.
    This scared the French CP so much that they hastily began to look for
    solutions to the crisis which would keep the Gaullists in power -- who
    were, at least, a known variable.

	In Republican Spain (1935-49?), the CP took its orders from Stalin,
    who did not want a revolution.  He wanted a stable Mediterranean/Atlantic
    trading partner for the USSR.  The result is quite well documented in
    George Orwell's "Homage to Catalonia".  In Spain today, after Franco, the
    party plays a similarly regressive role, but very large (>100,000 people)
    wildcat strikes did take place in the mid-to-late seventies, showing
    that the party's hold is not so strong.

	In all these countries, there are worker's movements which are
    quite radical, while at the same time hostile to doctrinaire "party
    line" reasoning about what they should or should not be doing.  This
    makes them incoherent, disorganized, faltering, and sometimes violent.
    But so much depends (to my mind) on the ability of workers to think,
    work, and act for themselves, that I certainly don't blame them for
    wanting to dump the hoary ideologues of old left-wing parties and
    the hardened career bureaucrats of unions which don't represent them
    anymore.

	No ideology can make a particular moral claim on the right to
    organize and strike.  The appropriateness is entirely situational.
    Those who would impose some over-arching theory over this right will
    almost always ending up repressing it themselves.

	(Why am I flaming at YOU about this?  Oh, well: reponses are
    welcome in any case.)

	Michael Turner