[net.music] Roy Harper

"James J. Lippard" <Lippard@his-phoenix-multics.arpa> (11/19/84)

I only know of Roy Harper because he did the vocals for Pink Floyd's
"Have a Cigar".  On the recent MTV showing of a David Gilmour concert
which was recorded in London, Harper came on to sing "Short and Sweet"
(which he wrote) with Gilmour.  The audience seemed to be more
interested in Harper than in Gilmour.  What else has Harper done?
(Actually, I do have one Roy Harper album, "The Unknown Soldier", but
I'm wondering if he's ever been involved with any groups.)

rkp@drutx.UUCP (Russ Pierce) (11/28/84)

>I only know of Roy Harper because he did the vocals for Pink Floyd's
>"Have a Cigar".  On the recent MTV showing of a David Gilmour concert
>which was recorded in London, Harper came on to sing "Short and Sweet"
>(which he wrote) with Gilmour.  The audience seemed to be more
>interested in Harper than in Gilmour.  What else has Harper done?
>(Actually, I do have one Roy Harper album, "The Unknown Soldier", but
>I'm wondering if he's ever been involved with any groups.)

I don't know if Roy Harper was ever a member of a group, but I
don't think it really matters.  If I had to describe him, I would
have to call him a cross between Bob Dylan and Ian Anderson (two
of my favorites).  Most of the albums I have are old imports of
his work.  He has two American releases (I think just two) on the
Chrysalis label.  Most of the stuff he does is acoustic guitar,
strange lyrics, odd voice, but good songs.  I think you really out
to hear him to appreciate him.  The one good (GREAT) Chrysalis
release is "When an Old Crickateer (sp) Leaves the Crease".  This
has some great songs (Grown-Ups are Just Silly Children), and has
some great musicians playing on the album (Dave Gilmour, John Paul
Jones, John Bonham, Chris Spedding, more that I can't think of....).  

Also, if you look at Led Zeppelin's third album (the one with the
rotating cover), there is a song "Hat's Off to Harper".  I guess
this song was written for Roy boy.  Anyway, he must be a cult hero
in England.  Any comments from across the sea?

Anyway, bottom line is that it is well worth the money to buy a
couple of his albums just to get a feel of the guy and his music.

Enjoy!!!

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Carl@tgr.UUCP (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@BRL-VLD.ARPA> (11/29/84)

Message referred to "Crickateer" (sp)?  Very close to that was
something about grownups/children.  I do have that message, but
recall that my own messages about children's stuff mentioned the
Cricket label, whether or not there's any coincidence.

Message was from Russ Pierce <rkp@drutx.uucp>

markv@dartvax.UUCP (Mark Vita) (11/29/84)

> 
> Also, if you look at Led Zeppelin's third album (the one with the
> rotating cover), there is a song "Hat's Off to Harper".  I guess
> this song was written for Roy boy.  Anyway, he must be a cult hero
> in England.  Any comments from across the sea?
> 
 
    Actually, the name of the Zeppelin song is "Hats Off To (Roy) Harper".
I assume this is the same guy.  However, I have never been able to make
out the lyrics to this song, as they are intentionally distorted, so I
don't know what they had to say about the guy, if anything.
    Another kind of amusing/bizzare thing about the song--the song credit
is "Trad. Arr. Charles Obscure.".  Right under that is the statement
"All selections and arrangements of traditional songs published by 
Superhype Music, Inc., ASCAP."  I never quite figured out what the 
humor behind this was.
 
-- 

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                                Dartmouth College

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nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (04/04/85)

[We let the weirdness in.]

Someone mentioned Roy Harper a little while ago, and he's extremely
good, but in the U.S. he is almost completely unkown.  So, I've
decided to give you some more information on him.  Some might have
heard of him because he does the vocals on Pink Floyd's song "Have a
Cigar" and there is a Led Zeplin song entitled "Hats Off to Harper",
which is indeed about Roy Harper.  (I'm not a fan of Led Zeplin, and
haven't heard the song, so I don't know what it says, but the Harper
in the title is Roy Harper.)  He also did backing vocals on Kate
Bush's song "Breathing", and there is a note on Kate's album "Never
for Ever" which says "Special thanks to ... Roy Harper for holding on
to the poet in his music".  His song "Another Day" has been covered by
Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel doing a duet (this duet is sooooooo
awesome!) and by another group recently (I don't remember who, but it
has a female lead singer).  He's also done studio work for many, many
famous people, and the following people have appeared on his albums:
Kate Bush (she does a duet with him on the song "You" from the album
"The Unkown Soldier" -- the song was written by Roy Harper and David
Gilmour, but I haven't yet found this album), Bill Bruford, David
Gilmour, Jimmy Page, Keith Moon, Ronnie Lane, and John Paul Jones.  He
also co-wrote the song "Short and Sweet" on the album "David Gilmour".

His albums seem to be very difficult to find in the U.S.  He has at
least 13 albums, but I've only been able to find "When An Old
Cricketer Leaves The Crease", "Roy Harper 1970-1975", and "Come Out
Fighting Genghis Smith".

Much of Roy Harper's stuff is very folkish, but he doesn't like
pigeon-holed.  Some of his music is also very unfolkish.  This is a
quote by Allan Jones of Melody Maker that appears on the back of
"1970-1975":

	... As those close to him will wearily attest, he is
	uncomfortably sensitive to attempts to categorise either
	himself or his work, and especially violent in his reaction to
	those misguided attempts to confine him exclusively to the
	role of *folk singer*: a role to which Harper has,
	consistently and clearly, refused to conform.  His talent
	might initially have been nurtured and exposed on the folk
	circuit, and his earliest heroes may have been part of the
	folk movement in its broadest sense, but Harper has never been
	comfortable as a member of that musical society and has been
	seen by its principals as something of a renegade.

	"Some people still insist that I'm just some lunatic folk
	singer with ambitions beyond my station," he's remarked.  "But
	I was never really in with that mob.  I spent most of my times
	being thrown out of folk clubs for not being Ralph McTell."

His music, lyrics, and singing are rather strange.  His songs vary
from the Roger Waters style offensiveness and sarcasm to the type of
love song that appears on Kate Bush's "The Kick Inside".  Here are
some lyrics to one of his really good songs "I Hate The White Man" (he
is white):

	Far across the ocean, in the land of look and see
	There once was a time for you and me
	Where the winds blow sweetly and the easy seas flow still
	And where the barefoot dream of life can laugh and cry its fill
	Where slot machine confusion and the plastic universe
	Are objects of amusement in the fiction of their curse
	And where the crazy white man and his tear gas happiness
	Lies dead and long since buried by his own fantasitic mess
	For I hate the white man, in his plastic excuse
	O I hate the white man and the man who turned him loose

	...

	And the bowels of his city have been locked into a safe
	Where the spew stains on the sidewalks are defenders of his faith
	While back inside his kitchen, the bowler hatted long haired saint
	Cleans with soap and water, but it's really just white paint
	While the gorgon-headed scandalsheet presents its daily bite
	To give the righteous news believers drugs to keep them white
	And outside in the whitewash where the guns are always (always) right
	The shooting star has summoned death's dark angel from his night
	And I hate the white man, in his evergreen excuse
	O I hate the white man and the man who turned you all loose

So, if you are into the same type of music I am into (Kate Bush, Pink
Floyd, Peter Gabriel, Hawkwind, Laurie Anderson, Residents, Beatles,
King Crimson, Bill Nelson, Nash the Slash, B-52s, Tom Tom Club, etc.),
you might want to check him out!

	"And across the room inside a tomb, a chance is waxed and wanes
	 The night is young, why are we so hung up in each other's chains?"

	 Doug Alan
	  mit-eddie!nessus
	  Nessus@MIT-MC.Arpa


P.S.  If you have a copy of the album "The Unknown Soldier" (by Roy),
I'd be forever indebted to you if you'd be willing to record it onto a
tape for me!  I'd send you a tape and a self-addressed, stamped
envelope.  I've been looking for this album for months and have tried
to special-order it to no avail.  I even promise to buy the album if I
ever see it, so as not to cheat ol' Roy out of any money.