[net.politics] Weapons, Tigers, and a really bad idea

trc (05/10/83)

Response to Courtney Loomis and Tim Sevener:

Perhaps Courtney should re-read my note.  I did not say that nuclear
are exactly analagous with handguns.  I did point out that, while the
degree of destruction is greater, the intention of both the nuclear
weapon and a saturday night special is to kill the enemy or shoot
up his property.  The degree of destruction does not change the nature
of the thing - it is still a weapon.  WHY do some people try to make
some sort of distinction? Are they trying to defend the right to go
about murdering people?  DEAD IS DEAD!  A billion deaths are only
quantitatively worse than a single death, not qualitatively!  The
death of the last man on earth would be a tragedy only because of
the billions of lives lost before it.  With each murder committed, 
Mankind announces that it feels extinction is its just due. In
order to deny that claim, humans must abhor all murders equally,
and seek justice.

Yes, we do have another choice than giving up the world, either to 
communism or to death.  We have the choice of life.  Choosing to
"make peace" with the Russian government is like feeding a hungry
tiger your arm, then lying down with it to go to sleep.  You may survive 
a while longer, but you'd better wake up in time to feed it a midnight
snack, or you'll be that snack.  And even if you wake up in time, every
time, it won't make much difference - eventually there will be more of you
inside the tiger than outside.  Yesterday Eastern Europe, today Afganistan.
Perhaps a bloody red chunk of South America next?

If you want to choose life, it will take more than convincing the 
tiger not to sharpen its claws and teeth.  Merely being armed does
not protect the hunter.  The tiger must know that he is armed, and
willing to protect himself.  (And the hunter does NOT provoke the
attack of the tiger by carrying a gun.)  A wise hunter would not
risk his family by hunting the tiger while they are along.  Rather,
he would stand guard over them, gun loaded and ready.  The hunter
does have one advantage over the tiger, if he is patient - the tiger
is sick, requiring frequent transfusions from free human minds to keep
it alive.  Cut that off, and it will eventually die.  On the other
hand, the tiger could have an advantage - for the hunter's family is
getting panicky, and are suggesting that the hunter make a deal with
the tiger.  "Only eat a little of us at a time, and dont use your terrible
claws, and we wont try to defend ourselves with our terrible guns".

Not a pretty story.  But accurate.  Before the storm of protest and criticism
starts, I'd like to ask a question that Ayn Rand has asked, and already 
answered.  Why are people so certain that a nuclear war is inevitable?  Her 
answer (1) is that people sense that they have not given up the idea that is 
the source of war.  That is, that it is sometimes right to use force to 
achieve goals, rather than merely in self-defense.  That sometimes men are 
incapable of any other means of achievement.  If anyone could convince Russia 
to give up this idea, and get the US to avoid it more consistantly, there would 
be no fear of war between the two nations.  But the use of force is inherent
to any form of collectivism - the idea being that there are certain social
goals that are worthwhile enough to force people to work for them.  So, for
Russia to give up the basis for war would mean that it would give up the 
(false) basis for communism.  While I would greatly like that, I am scarcely
so naive as to believe it could happen soon, or spontaneously.


	Tom Craver
	houti!trc

(1)	"The Roots of War", First published in The Objectivist, June 1966;
	reprinted in "Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal", Nov, 1967; by Ayn Rand.

soreff (05/10/83)

Tom, your analogy is almost reasonable, except for one element.  The hunter
and tiger should be more equivalently armed, since they "tiger" can shoot
back even if mortally wounded.  Also, some allowance for the side effects on
noncombatants of massive use of nuclear weapons (no one REALLY knows what
10,000 megatons of nuclear explosions will do to the atmosphere).  Treat
the landscape as being lined with explosives, and I think the analogy will
hold.		-Jeffrey Soreff (hplabs!soreff)