[net.politics] Fascism vs. Communism

don@allegra.UUCP (08/10/83)

Subject: Fascism vs. Communism

If you want to get political, why fool around? Arguments about
Republicans vs. Democrats are pretty tame by any sort of global
political standard.  How do people feel about these two extreme, but
highly influential views? Generally, one sees these systems explained
only by people who are wildly opposed to one or both; therefore, I will
try to be advocative.


FASCISM:  The world contains a few productive people like financiers
and industrialists who really make things move.  Everyone else (the
working class) are just parasites living off the productivity of
superior people.  Eventually, non-productive people use the mechanism
of democracy to force Capitalists to do things that aren't in their own
pure self interest (eg. regulated economy).  Just the productive people
should run things so that cannot happen.  (Note that the last sentence
makes the real difference between a fascist and someone who is just
"pretty rightwing".)

MARXISM:  Hundreds of years ago, craftsmen did their own work and sold
their own goods.  When mass production was invented, many people
worked, but only a few (those who put up initial capital) got to keep
the profits.  A handful of people became rich by employing the labor
power of many people and not paying those people for the real value of
their work.  The Capitalists are unnecessary.  They use tainted money
to make more tainted money.  Workers should use their labor power
solely to improve their own standard of living.  It may be necesary to
use force to unseat the Capitalists from their position of power.

ka@spanky.UUCP (08/16/83)

The explanation of fascism is slightly misleading because it discusses
what fascism has to say about the economy, and fascism is not primarily
an economic doctrine.  Here are a few major tennents of fascism:

Fascism is a political and religious system calling for a glorification
of the state.  It is a religious system (Mussolini's word, not mine)
because it calls for the worship of the state.  It is opposed to
individualism because individualism assumes that individuals have
inherent worth, rather than having value only as members of the state.
It is opposed to democracy because democracy assumes "the people" are
able to decide the proper direction for the state.  Only a few people
are capable of seeing in advance the natural path for the state [just
as in the Catholic church final judgements are rendered by the pope
and not by a majority vote].  The purpose of the state is to explore
its potential [presumably by conquering other states].  Fascism is
opposed to many of the arguments for capitalism [since these tend to
talk about individual rights and freedoms] but can coexist with
capitalism until the profit motive conflicts with the goals of the
state.

Naturally I am opposed to fascism.
					Kenneth Almquist