[net.politics] more thoughts on KAL007

preece@uicsl.UUCP (09/13/83)

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uicsl!preece    Sep 12 11:02:00 1983

Well, according to the radio (NPR) this morning the administration
concedes that there was evidence on the tapes that the Soviet
interceptor did in fact fire warning shots in front of the airliner.

We already knew that the 747, shortly before being shot down, had
begun climbing, which could have been interpreted as evasive action.

As to identification of the aircraft involved, someone from the
intelligence community said on tv that radar would not distinguish
between the 747 and an rc135. Given that visual identification is
the only tool we have to ask, could the Soviet pilot, at 2 km distance,
in the dark, determine not only that the aircraft was a 747 but also that
it was a civilian plane? My understanding is that the airforce does in
fact use 747s (I think as command posts) and that some of the airforce
radar planes do have funny profiles.

A couple of questions for consideration:

Could the Soviet pilot, when he said the navigation lights were on, have
been referring not to the 747's lights, but to his own? (I don't have the
transcript anymore.) A conversation heard from one end only is always
a good place for mis-interpretation.

Similarly, could the pilot of the SU15, when he said he was now in front
of the plane, have been responding to a request from the ground that he try
to signal the aircraft visually (wing wagging).

Reports indicate the KAL pilot started to talk to Tokyo AFTER being hit.
Why hadn't he mentioned to the ground before that he was being circled
by Soviet interceptors? (He really ought to have been able at least to see
the exhaust of the SU15 when it was in front of him)

It's pretty clear that the Soviets have a different world view than we
do. It's not impossible they would have shot down the plane even knowing
that it was a civilian airliner. What I do find a little amusing about
response to the event (there's nothing amusing about the event itself) is
the dilemma it creates for the more conservative elements on the net. They
are, after all, the ones who have screamed for tighter borders, they are
the ones who have claimed a positive right to shoot housebreakers, they are
the ones who have called for more defense, for more aggressive reponses to
Soviet aggression. I suspect that a lot of the people who have responded
to this incident with the most outrage would not have been at all disturbed
if WE had shot down a Cuban airliner over Florida, saying we thought it
was smuggling and had had its lights off.

scott preece
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