[net.politics] Israel bombing Palestinian civilians? - reply to Jim Balter

dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (09/25/83)

ima!jim (Jim Balter) says:
>>>This is even more significant in light a tactic used throughout the war:
>>>heavy bombardment and shelling of other refugee camps and West Beirut.
>>>This caused many times more civilian deaths than the Phalangist massacre did.
>>>The justifications given in both cases were similar: the PLO was said to be
>>>"hiding behind civilians" in Sabra and Shatila as well. 

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* The PLO was much more than "SAID TO BE" hiding behind civilians.	*
* May I present some documented facts:					*
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The overall PLO strategy was cowardly camouflage: hiding behind
civilians, enjoying the protection of churches, mosques, hospitals,
schools, embassies and archeological sites, believing that the
Israeli artillery and aircraft would not deliberately attack such
targets.

	TESTIMONY OF RETIRED AMERICAN GENERALS
	A team of retired U.S. generals inspected Southern
	Lebanon during the first week of August. In their
	report they compared the fighting they had observed in
	Lebanon to other wars and said Israel acted "extremely
	cautiously" to avoid civilian casualties. Maj. Gen. (Ret.)
	Hugh Hoffman, former head of the Army Readiness Command,
	remarked:

	"We could see buildings damaged that had undamaged buildings
	on either side. Obviously it was a very selective use of
	fire-power." (The Washington Post, August 11, 1982)

	The London Times reports (June 19, 1982):
	"Several residents told the same story, although
	one middle-aged, middle class woman, the owner of
	some orange groves, expressed her plight most drama-
	tically: `When the Israelis came', she said, `the
	Palestinian fighters took their guns and placed them
	next to our homes, next to apartment blocks and hospitals
	and schools. They thought this would protect them. We
	pleaded with them to take their guns away but they
	refused. So when they fired at the Israelis, the planes
	came and bombed our homes.' The woman was telling the
	truth.
	At their own Ein Hilweh camp, the Palestinians actually
	put their guns on the roof of the hospital.

	Dr. Labib Abu Dahar, 55, a graduate of Beirut's American
	University and an intern at the Fordham Hospital of the
	Bronx, runs a prestigious medical center in Sidon. He told
	"Haaretz" correspondent on July 30, 1982:

	"I was on the PLO blacklist. They threatened to blow up
	my hospital, and since then I have had bodyguards watching
	me day and night. The reason why? When the war began the PLO
	mounted two anti-aircraft guns - one near the building and
	the other near the garden. When I protested that this would
	attract the fire of the Israeli planes to my hospital and
	endanger the life of my patients, they just burst out laughing."

	Abbas Al-Haj, 55, resident of Ein Hilwe, told Haaretz (August
	20, 1982):
	
	"This camp did not have to be destroyed. It could have remained
	intact. In leaflets* dropped by Israeli planes, we were requested
	to leave the camp, but the PLO would let nobody out. My neighbour,
	Saleh, tried to escape. They shot him in the back and tied him to
	a pillar in the square until he bled to death. Three hundred people
	were killed in our camp. Who is to blame for their death? Write
	down - only the PLO."

	*To offset the influence of the Israeli appeal, PLO propagandists
	spread rumours to the effect that the leaflets were sprayed with
	poison.

I am looking at photographs with the following captions:
	Sport Stadium Used as Arsenal and Training Center
	Vehicles and Training Manuals in Ancient Hippodrome
	Anti-Aircraft Gun Placed Between Buildings
	    (the buildings in the picture are clearly residential apartments)
	PLO Gun Position Adjacent to Hospital
	Gun Positions Inside Museum
	Arms Cache in Mosque
	A Damour church is turned into a weapon dump and garage by the PLO.


	During the fighting and in their flight, the PLO terrorist
	changed into civilian clothing and mixed with the people in
	the camps. When Israeli forces occupied a hospital in Sidon,
	they caught 14 PLO terrorists dressed in the white attire
	of physicians and orderlies.

	In several other instances, PLO men waving white flags
	shot and killed Israeli soldiers approaching to accept their
	"surrender". There were also cases of hoisting white flags
	atop buildings and firing from their shelter at the approaching
	Israeli soldiers.

	CHRISTIAN DAMOUR - A JOINT PLO-MOSLEM CONQUEST

	As the Israeli forces entered the town of Damour, 18 km
	south of Beirut, TV screens world-wide showed scenes of
	destruction, in brilliant colour. Whether stated or implied,
	the world assumed that Israel was responsible.

	Few knew or remembered that the Christian town of 30,000
	had resisted the PLO, the target for an all-out PLO and
	Moslem attack as early as 1976. As the Christian world
	remained silent, the massacre of Damour took place,
	with some 10,000 inhabitants brutally murdered and the
	survivors fled. Damour, empty of its residents, was taken
	over by the PLO, which made it into a stronghold, including
	its churches.

	American correspondents who visited the town following its
	capture by the Israeli forces reported (New York Times, June
	21, 1982, by David Shipler):

	"For nearly seven years, until the Israeli army attacked and
	captured it last week, the town was inaccessible to its own
	people; the Palestine Liberation Organization made it a strong-
	hold, using its churches as firing ranges and armouries. A huge
	new church, left unfinished by the fleeing Maronite Christians
	in 1976, is covered with spray-painted Palestinian nationalist
	slogans and plastered with posters. On inside wall where the
	altar was to have stood, two bulls eyes can be seen, the stone in
	and around them roughened by bullet holes. Above them, where a cross
	would have hung, a triangular PLO symbol is painted in the Palestinian
	nationalist colors of red, green, black and white, framing a silhouette
	of a rifle and hammer. High in the belfry, a concreted cross has
	obviously been used as a target over the years, for it is chipped
	and gouged in a thousand places."

	The Washington Post's corespondent, William Braning, adds:
	"The wall of the church where the cross once hung is pockmarked
	by bullets. Below where the altar once stood, lies a pile
	of greasy engine casings and spare parts. Oil stains spot
	the floor of the church, which evidently had been turned
	into a garage.

	"In another part of town, the large St. Elias church is
	in similar disarray. The Palestinians had apparently found
	a new use for this church was well: the pews inside have long
	since been removed and a volleyball net stretches across the
	interior between two pillars." (International Herald Tribune,
	July 7, 1982)

	RETURN TO DAMOUR

	Um Attala [picture of elderly woman] told Israel Television
	viewers on Friday, July 23, 1982, her story of Damour:

	"The PLO came (in 1976) and looted our houses - which were beau-
	tifully furnished - and took our money. They were the PLO and the
	other wretched ruffians they brought from the Arab countries.
	They cut men and women to pieces with hatchets. We fled to the
	palace of President Chamoun and from there we were taken by ship
	to Jounieh. We left Damour ablaze behind us. For years I was told
	`You will be back'. Now, thank God, we have returned home.

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All quotes are from "PLO: Now the story can be told", Dept. of
Information, WZO, P.O.Box 92, Jerusalem, copyright 1982.
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 {cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo,uw-beaver}!utcsrgv!lsuc!dave

swatt@ittvax.UUCP (Alan S. Watt) (09/26/83)

If you're going to quote from an Israeli publication, you ought to at
least indicate whether you have any independent substantiation of it.
Early in the war, the Israelis were also putting about the story that
they had captured a PLO armory in Beruit with enough arms to "equip a
million men", which is pure moonshine.

Remember:

	"In any war, the first casualty is truth"

	- Alan S. Watt

aaw@pyuxss.UUCP (09/28/83)

the existance of the armaments has never been really questioned by
either side ( millions of rifles, hundreds of tanks, etc, etc. )
apparently they are East block countries version of tax deductable
contributions- they gave huge amounts of outdated (read WW II and on)
equipment to the PLO (and Cuba and ...). There was also more modern
equipment than most medium sized armies have, but only a small
percentage of the total. The reason for this is that by giving
outdated armaments to "revolutionary" groups that much scrap iron
becomes a political brownie point.
				Aaron