[net.politics] War of 1812: 3rd Movement

pector@ihuxw.UUCP (11/11/83)

Last night when I got home, I checked to see what books I had that referred
to the War of 1812.  I only had 2, William McNeill's "World History" and
Peterson's "Thomas Jefferson," that might.  The former turned out not to
refer to the War at all (what a waste product of a book; it was only
interested in historical patterns and trends).  The latter referred to
the War only as concerned Jefferson's involvement.  It pointed out that
in 1806 or 1807, the British warship, the H.M.S. Leopard, stopped the
U.S. warship, the U.S.S. Chesapeake, at sea to check for any British
deserters that might be serving on that ship.  The British justification
at the time was that they were blockading Napoleon-controlled Europe and
that Napoleon refused to allow any European nations to trade with Britain.
As a result, they needed all the men they could get for the British Navy.
When the American captain refused to allow the British to search for
deserters, the Leopard immediately opened fire on the Chesapeake, killing
3 and wounding 18.  At that point, the search was permitted and 4 sailors
were taken from the Chesapeake onto the Leopard.  The U.S. protested this
action to the British government, but the British rep, Canning, refused
to make amends and in fact defended the action.  The U.S. government,
under Jefferson, started an embargo against Britain, particularly when
there were reports in British papers that the King was going to push for
more laws (orders of council) allowing greater use of impressment, which
had already been used by the British for years.  There were other actions
on the high seas by the British that further enraged the U.S. over the
next few years, leading to the U.S. declaring war on Britain in 1812.
At that point, the only way for the U.S. to carry out war was to attack
the British where they were, and that being in Canada, in order to get
them off the North American continent.

This was what I was able to find about that War.  I hope it points out
that it was not just a "war of conquest" undertaken by the U.S.

						Scott Pector

mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) (11/15/83)

I appreciate your efforts to put forward the background to the
War of 1812. Since I posted the article to which you have been
responding, I thought I should get back to you directly.

History is always different depending on which side of a war your
ancestors were on, and whose books you are taught at school. My
article was from memory and from the general perception of the
1812 War in this neighbourhood. I did not look up what a respectable
historian had to say about it, and I accept your factual revisions.
Perhaps I will go and look it up for myself in a British or Canadian
history. It would be interesting to see whether professional
historians, as opposed to school propagandists, agree.

But the point I was trying to make was that it really doesn't matter
that each side perceives the other as having not always been
friendly. The foundations have been friendly through most of the
time both before and since 1776 (there was a big pro-colonist party
in Britain during the Revolution, if I have my history right).
The essential point is that good friends should be able to remain
that even though there are occasions when they fight. Britain and
the USA have the same committment to freedom (and sometimes the
same willingness to run roughshod over freedom in the name of
expediancy). The US Bill of Rights is a shining beacon for all
of us (even though polls in the streets sometimes suggest that
not all US citizens agree).

On second thoughts, I think I should post this rather than just mail it.

Martin Taylor