decot@cwruecmp.UUCP (Dave Decot) (12/12/83)
The following indented material is from Genji. Here, for reference, is a portion of the letter which some folks found objectionable; first is part of the quote from the original letter about the Star Spangled Banner, then my comments: << ... United States' National Anthem. ... I automatically rose << to my feet upon hearing ... A warm feeling rushed through my << body ... intensely invigorating ... Patriotism, pride, and << fellowship were definately components of what I was feeling. I << was proud of my country and of the audience. I do not know << why. Spoken like a true patriot! Maybe you'll go off to war on the same unknowing emotional high. --Genji Now answers to critics: "If I am not for myself, who can be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I?" --Hillel The problem with patriotism is not the love of one's own country, but the exclusion of others. The dictionary definition may say nothing about exclusion but patriotism in practice does just that. And usually patriotism in practice also excludes significant portions of one's own country people from love. It's negative aspect is most visible, an ideological force against internal and external enemies. Patriotism could be considered virtue in the era of Thomas Paine and Benjamin Franklin, but today it's an anachronism, as is its social base, the nation-state. Of course, we should love our own country, the only home most of us have; but let's break out of nationalism and care for the whole world. Automatic patriotic emotional responses do make me think of people going blindly off to war. Instead of resonating with patriotic appeals during this period when the government desires support for military action, let's think before acting. R. Reagan seems bent on showing that it isn't only Democrat Presidents who can lead the USA into a major modern war. --Genji I did not immediately respond to Genji's unreasonable and completely unfounded attack on my thinking abilities, because I assumed, correctly, that other readers would defend me. However, he have a stubborn and mistaken impression of me that I feel impelled to correct. Excuse me, did I ever say anything about excluding other countries? I don't think my original submission said anything AT ALL about any other country, except a reference to "O, Canada", which was not intended to be derogatory. Perhaps Genji and I use different definitions of "patriotism." I once submitted a public article reprimanding a gentleman from the University of Oklahoma who was complaining that someone should "go back where you came from if you don't like this country." I am against nationalism, and those perverted practices of "patriotism" Genji mentions. I think it is very patriotic indeed to celebrate the diversity of culture this country is supposed to represent. The Statue of Liberty is a testament to this idea. Excluding anyone from love for "patriotic" reasons is stupid. Being coerced by my government to kill people is one of my worst FEARS. I do and would not take any kind of pleasure WHATEVER in killing anything for any reason. It is counterproductive and avoids points of controversy by attempting to silence the "opposing side". For my own views on violence and war, please read the writings of M. K. Gandhi; he expresses these well. Please read any of my other submissions to net.politics to see that I am an opponent of many of President Reagan's policies. I certainly shall not "blindly go off to war", and I always try to "think before acting". I don't see how loving one's country is a crime, or even harmful in the least. The purpose of my submission was not to advocate war, nationalism, national pride, patriotism, Steven Spielberg, the design of our flag, or the suitablility of "The Star-Spangled Banner" as a national anthem. One purpose was to consider the emotional power of music in cinema, and the effects of repeated exposure to music, and the emotional impact of community. Another was to share an interesting (to me, at least) experience with various people. ("America the Beautiful" is much more suitable, and inspires me more, anyway.) As for "breaking out of nationalism" and "caring for the whole world", I am an active member of Amnesty International USA, an organization that works for the release of prisoners held solely for their beliefs and who have not used or advocated violence. Another primary goal is the humane treatment of prisoners held for any reason, in ANY country. I regularly read several international newspapers, and am equally dismayed at executions in the U.S. and Soviet Union, multinational deaths in Lebanon, Cuban deaths in Grenada, "disappearances" of Chilean citizens, and the government-sponsored murders of Afghani and El Salvadoran people. US citizens are not better than others, just luckier. I wish Americans of the United States cared more about the torture and killing by police of a Phillipino citizen in front of his wife and children than about whether wearing Japanese characters on a T-shirt is chic. The latter concern is NOT international awareness. Anyone whose biggest worry is whether he can obtain a Cabbage Patch Doll this Christmas can come to me and I'll give him something more substantial to think about. Dave Decot decvax!cwruecmp!decot (Decot.Case@rand-relay)