[net.politics] Ronald Rayguns Strikes Again

amra@ihuxj.UUCP (Steven L. Aldrich) (12/16/83)

    I read three stories in the Dec. 12,83 Chicago Sun-Times that might
   be worth discussing. One concerned the testing,later this month,of
   the FIRST U.S. anti-satellite weapon system. The second was on the
   deployment of SHOULDER LAUNCHED S.A.M. MISSILES around the White House.
   The third article covered PENTAGON CONCERNS over the breakup of A.T.&T.

    The story on A-SAT testingg stated that the weapon in question would
   be launched from an F-15 at 80,000 ft. It would then climb into space
    to impact with its target at 30,000 mph. The two stage missile has heat
    seeking capabilities and small thrusters in the nose cone to guide it
    to its intended target. It is scheduled for deployment in 1987. This
    is just the FIRST system to be deployed in Reagan's current STAR WARS
    defense program.

     According to the story Reagan will likely approve an R & D effort
    in this area that may cost $5-7 BILLION (yes BILLION) over 5 years.
    The TOTAL COST of the STAR WARS programs could reach a cost of $500
    BILLION. The R&D program is aimed at DEVELOPING LASER,PARTICLE BEAM,
    and OTHER HIGH ENERGY WEAPONS to destroy Soviet NUCLEAR WEAPONS and
    /or SATELLITES.

     According to the ever popular UN-NAMED WHITE HOUSE SOURCE, Reagan
    is committed (WHAT A LOVELY THOUGHT) to development of these weapons.
    the source also states," WE'RE NOT SO AFRAID THEY (U.S.S.R.) WILL
    DEPLOY EXOTIC DEVICES SOON THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE. MAYBE WE'LL SEE A
    SPACE BASED LASER SYSTEM,IN A FEW YEARS, THAT WILL BE MINIMUMLLY
    CAPABLE OF DISABLING SATELLITES",he said,"BUT,IT WOULD BE FAR FROM
    CAPABLE OF DESTROYING NUCLEAR WEAPONS".

     When are the U.S. & U.S.S.R going to realize that militarizing(sp?)
    space is not going to ease tensions on Earth. A program of JOINT
    development of PEACEFULL uses of space resources might accomplish
    this however. By developing the VAST RESOURCES on the MOON,ASTERIODS,
    etc., we MIGHT begin to RESOLVE our GEO-POLITICAL problems without
    ARMING OURSELVES TO THE TEETH. Both countries could reap untold
    benfits; we must begin seeking and developing ways to PEACFULLY
    CO-EXIST with the U.S.S.R BEFORE it's too late. This may be a good
    first step towards achieving that goal.

     Now on to the deployment of SAM missiles around the White House.
    These SAM's are shoulder launched and would be under the control
    of the Secret Service. They are being deployed,supposedly, to
    defend the President from airial bombing by some crazed terrorist
    on a Kamakazi(sp?) mission. According to the article, security 
    officers would have LESS THAN ONE MINUTE to decide to FIRE on a
    plane,from the National Airport, if it deviated suspicialy from
    its course.

     This is the latest round if ever increasing protection of the
    President from terrorism. Over the Thanksgiving weekend the White
    House was blocked off and surrounded by trucks filled with sand
    to prevent any CRAZED FIEND from driving a vehicle filled with
    explosives into the White House. Since then, concrete barriers
    have been installed to replace the trucks. All but two entrances
    to the White House Gate have been sealed off. A twisting maze of
    concrete barriers MUST be traversed to gain access at the two
    entrance points still in operation.

     Two questions came to mind when I read these stories. Firstly,
    if they can DEFEND RONNIE (RAYGUNS) REAGAN FROM TRUCK BOMBS,
    why do they claim there is NO DEFENCE AGAINST SIMILIAR ACTS IN 
    LEBANON? Secondly,is this a rel threat,(remember the LIBBYIAN
    HIT SQUAD??), or is Ronnie R. over-emphasising the possibilites
    of these types of attacks?

     The story on the Pentagon raised some interesting,(scarry),points
    about communications problems faced by the MILITARY AGENCIES who have
    control over our STRATEGIC and CONVENTIONAL forces. According to the
    article, the defense/military services utilize the BELL SYSTEM for
    up to 95% of their communications needs. This includes the Washington
    /Moscow HOTLINE, S.A.C., & NORAD (North American Aerospace Defence
    Command). According to the story,S.A.C. relies TOTALLY on COMMERCIAL
    TELE-COMMUNICATIONS RESOURSES fro its communication with the bomber
    and missile forces under its control. With the BREAK-UP of the Bell
    System,on Jan. 01,1984, Pentagon officials ARE CONCERNEDWITH THE CHAOS
    THAT COULD RESULT IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATTION. Not to mention the
    added costs ($1.3 BILLION) and delays involved with the INSTALLATION
    and MAINTENANCE of COMMUNICATION LINKS. Not to worry though, they
    have formed a committie ,of company representitves and govt. officials,
    to resolve any difficulties in a NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

     Anyone wishing to comment on the above issues can either POST to this
    newsgroup or send me mail. (IHNP4!IHUXJ!AMRA)

                         PEACE & BEST WISHES
                       From the ever curious mind of:
                        Steve Aldrich (ihnp4!ihuxj!amra)

renner@uiucdcs.UUCP (renner ) (12/18/83)

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uiucdcs!renner    Dec 17 11:05:00 1983

I really like the capitalized words.  They make the article look like
the sort of thing one finds in National Enquirer.  Of course, so does
the content.

Scott Renner
{ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!renner 

tim@isrnix.UUCP (12/18/83)

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isrnix!tim    Dec 17 10:33:00 1983

  I am very concerned about the reports of shoulder launched SAM
missiles on the White House grounds.  I am concerned that it
indicates a paranoid and unstable mentality-much like Nixon's
during the Watergate investigation.  Do we want a paranoid in the
White House with his finger on the button?  Rayguns is feeling
very beleagured these days-but he loves it! Last week he gave the
speech saying that "America would never be weak again!" and
how the latest actions of the American military in Grenada,
and Lebanon showed the American "standing tall". Since when were
we ever "weak"?  We have had the power to blow up the world for
many years now--moreover we have military bases in more countries
of the world than anyone else--our economy ,if not the overwhelming
force in the world it once was, still outstrips the rest of the
world by a longshot.  Rather than being a sign of "strength",
it seems to me invading a little country like Grenada is more
like the "strength" of the bully who takes candy from a baby.
Does it prove how "strong" he is, or how foolish and immature?
When you have great power you must recognize your own strength
and use it wisely.  If somebody driving a 200 horsepower car acted
as if they were merely riding a bike many people are likely to
get hurt in the process. So it is with our incredible military
might and our ability to blow up the planet--it is ridiculous to
go throwing it around for no good reason.
  I am very concerned that Reagan thinks he's back on the set
of some Hollywood Western or War movie--of course nobody really
gets hurt in those, after it's over the actors all get up and
dust themselves off. Unfortunately this is real life and if
World War 3 starts there won't be anybody dusting themselves off
for very long--just long enough to die of radiation poisoning,cold
or starvation. (whichever gets them first)
  
 tim sevener
 Indiana University, Bloomington
 pur-ee!iuvax!isrnix

wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (12/19/83)

For the ever curious mind of Steve Aldrich.  The shoulder launch missles
you mention as being deployed around the White House were deployed
8 years ago just after the Navy(I believe) man landed a helicopter
on the White House lawn.  Don't put this one in Ronnie's pocket.
These missles have been in place for a long time now, but the news
that they were there has been a well kept secret.

andree@uokvax.UUCP (12/20/83)

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uokvax!andree    Dec 18 17:11:00 1983

Scott's right, it DID look like the National Enquirer. I don't know
about all the content, but at least part of it had the same `ring of
truth' that the NE has.

The first test date for the F-15 ASAT weapon was announced about
the same time as RR made his star wars speech. This weapon has been
in development for several years; it is a response to the ASAT capabilites
demonstrated by the soviets (You say you didn't know the russians had
asat capability? Ask me for pointer. I'll reply, albeit slowly.) in the late
70's (may have been '80).

The bit about the DOD depending on AT&T lines sounds equally bogus. However,
I wouldn't put mediavel-style fortification of the white house past anybody
who'd want to be president.

	<mike

jj@rabbit.UUCP (12/20/83)

Seems to me that a man who has been shot once, nearly shot at
twice, and been threatened many times may be something other
than paranoid when he defends his person.

It seems to me that people who say otherwise don't give
much of a damn about other people, rather they would
like to grind axes to a blunt point.  

The vulnerability of ANY of the state buildings of the USA
is frightening, if you consider access by air.  Perhaps
the public posting of SAM's isn't the most discrete way of
protecting the White House, Capitol, etc, but it is possibly
the most honest and most effective.  <Its effectiveness depends
on the terrorists belief (or non-belief) of the missile threat.>

I think that the deliberate emotion-mongering criticism of
Reagan is nothing else but an attempt at political slander.
I think that articles of such a nature should appear in net.flame,
where they will be dealt with in a fashion befitting their nature.

And what's WRONG with a
"Drug store truck drivin' man"
<Who's NOT the head of the KKK.>
Joan, you were wrong on that one.


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