[net.politics] renner vs. jj: an apology

pvp@ihuxl.UUCP (01/29/84)

>
>I just finished reading Phil Polli's latest "contribution" to the discussion
>on the "joys of starvation."  He flames *me* for something that rabbit!jj
>wrote!  Amazing.  I would like to bash his brains out.  Not in anger, for I
>feel none.  Not in anger, but merely to *see*.  That is all. [1]
>
Sorry, my mistake. 
I have lots of trouble
telling the two of you apart.
You both have the same habits of
making up facts, trying to insult people
who disagree with you, and not
bothering to respond to the issues raised.

As for bashing my head in,
(such witty repartee)
are you sure you wouldn't rather
starve me to death like you want
to do to the rest of humanity?

	Phil Polli
	ihuxl!pvp

jj@rabbit.UUCP (01/30/84)

>>I just finished reading Phil Polli's latest "contribution" to the discussion
>>on the "joys of starvation."  He flames *me* for something that rabbit!jj
>>wrote!  Amazing.  I would like to bash his brains out.  Not in anger, for I
>>feel none.  Not in anger, but merely to *see*.  That is all. [1]
>>
>Sorry, my mistake. 
>I have lots of trouble
>telling the two of you apart.  <Well, I guess he's never noticed either
the differences in our writing styles or philosophical basis, then again,
I guess he's never read the articles in question, or he would have. JJ>
>*********You both have the same habits of
>making up facts, trying to insult people
>who disagree with you, and not
>bothering to respond to the issues raised.*********
>
>As for bashing my head in,
>(such witty repartee)
>are you sure you wouldn't rather
>*****starve me to death like you want
>to do to the rest of humanity?******* (JJ here, that's not what either of
us said, he's lying, simply and deliberately. )
>
>	Phil Polli
>	ihuxl!pvp

Well, Phil, just look at the part of YOUR article that I've surrounded
with '****'.  Damned by your own words, I'd say!

It's clear to me that quite a few of you folks out there just aren't
willing to apply your own tests for whatever to yourselves.  I'm 
not sure whether or not it's because you KNOW you fail, or because
you figure that the ends justify the means. <Then again, I can't
see any ends, either, so that possiblity might be moot.>

Move this d**k to net.flame.  I feel more comfortable calling s**t
by it's own name in there.

[1] Mr. Renner was quoting Mark Twain there, I like Polli's comments
on witty repartee.(sic)  Perhaps he has decided for us that
Mark Twain is neither witty nor ???
-- 
TEDDY BEARS ARE PEOPLE, TOO!

(allegra,harpo,ulysses)!rabbit!jj

renner@uiucdcs.UUCP (renner ) (01/31/84)

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uiucdcs!renner    Jan 29 10:25:00 1984

/***** uiucdcs:net.politics / ihuxl!pvp /  8:04 pm  Jan 28, 1984 */
>  Sorry, my mistake.  I have lots of trouble telling the two of you
>  apart.  You both have the same habits of making up facts, trying to
>  insult people who disagree with you, and not bothering to respond to
>  the issues raised.
>  
>	  Phil Polli
>	  ihuxl!pvp

I suspect this is all the apology I am ever going to get.  That's OK,
as I am not really offended by Polli, just amused.  Now, look at this
latest contribution, and see if you can tell who Polli is really
describing.

"making up facts:"
     Me?  Name one of them.  I'll bet I can find a source.  Now, look
     at Polli's articles.  The first one claims that the US refuses to
     give away farm surplus food in order to keep domestic food prices
     high.  Wrong.  The second one claims that my proposal is like
     Stalin starving the peasants in Ukraine.  Also wrong.

"trying to insult people who disagree with you:"
     Don't make me laugh.  This is the man who writes:  "If you want to
     see an ugly American, Mr. Renner, just find a mirror." "I hope you
     don't profess to be a Christian, Mr. Renner.  You are a disgrace
     to the human race."

"not bothering to respond to the issues raised:"
     I have responded to every issue I could find in Polli's article.  The
     issue-to-noise ratio was fairly low.  If anyone thinks I've missed
     one, mail me and I'll respond to it too.  On Polli's part, all he's done
     is repeat his claims that my ideas are abominable, immoral, and
     un-Christian.

Oh well, enough.  I'm going to post this in net.flame.  If Mr. Polli will
cooperate, we can transfer this little exchange over there, or perhaps
conduct it privately through the mails.  Or maybe we'll get real lucky and
he will start sending to /dev/null.

Scott Renner
{ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!renner