[net.politics] About Polli, netnews, courtesy, and thoughtfullness

jj@rabbit.UUCP (02/01/84)

OK, Polli, it's your field.  I gather (from the notes I've gotten
from about 5 people who've sent you mail) that you are comparing
me to Adolph Hitler, Joe Stalin, and such.  I really don't understand
why you get off pronouncing your foolish solutions as fact, and
then calling everyone who wants to do something better bad
names. <And you then accuse them of calling YOU bad names.  BAH>

You, sir, are (were) the most offensive writer whom I've ever
dealt with in netnews.  You have  easily surpassed some really
strong contenders for that spot, and I really hope that you are
proud.  

In any case, the reason that I am writing this note is to grant
you full license to pollute net.politics in any way that you 
like.  I'm going to unsubscribe as soon as I use readnews to check
on the correct transmission of this message.

I will, sometime in the future, check on net.politics to see
if it has returned from the current level of mud-slinging emotion
to a level where SOME reasonable discussion can be carried out.

I congratulate you on your effective censorship of net.politics
by the technique of gross insult.  I'm curious as to where you
learned such an offensive technique.  Perhaps from some of the
folks that you insist on comparing me to?  Perhaps you're just
a genuinely nasty person?  <If so, why do you care about
starving people?  Maybe you don't, since you don't want to
help in a constructive manner, but I don't think that's true,
I think you're too wrapped up in emotional raving to see beyond
tomorrow.>

As an aside to my other opponent who comments that it is still
immoral to withhold food, I reply:
	It is  both immoral and downright foolish to feed a person
for a while, if you can't make damned sure that they can't feed
themselves when you have to stop.  You comment quite reasonably
that starving people remember who didn't feed them. How do you think
they will feel when you do feed them... FOR A WHILE?  I'd like to
send all the food surpluses (beyond sensible levels to be held
for crop failures, etc) to starving people myself.  I just want to
see something ELSE sent along with that,  something that will help
better the situation of the people who would starve if you
stopped.  Sending the right seed stocks, making sure that corrupt
local governments don't misuse them, that starving folks don't
EAT their seed stock, that cultivation can be achieved, and that
the land can be safeguarded from terrorists/enemies until harvest time
is right.  Sending enough food to ensure survival until crops can be harvested
is an essential part.   I'm open to ways that such things can be 
achieved. I'm not open to ways of enhancing misery.

As a comment to both:
	The truly disgusting religions overtones in this discussion
are unforgivable.  Religion and moral behavior are two separate
items, as the argument tactics in this group prove beyond doubt.
If religion is so important, why do you not subscribe to the
tenets of the religion that you insist on mentioning in every article?
It's not my place to judge you, sirs, so I won't say what I've
been lead to believe about you from your articles.  I suggest
that you learn to do likewise.
-- 
TEDDY BEARS ARE PEOPLE, TOO!

(allegra,harpo,ulysses)!rabbit!jj

tbray@mprvaxa.UUCP (Tim Bray) (02/06/84)

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Can't last, though...