renner@uiucdcs.UUCP (renner ) (02/07/84)
#R:ihuxl:-87500:uiucdcs:29200081:000:2094 uiucdcs!renner Feb 6 21:24:00 1984 /***** uiucdcs:net.politics / ihuxl!pvp / 8:13 pm Feb 1, 1984 */ > So, thru innumerable cheap shots and degrading insults, > I seem to have attracted everyone's attention to the issue. > ( Such distasteful sacrifices one is forced to make! ) Is THIS is the reason for those ridiculous articles? I do hope that this is not going to become the net.politics standard. I would like to think that we can have rational discussions without an "insult" period beforehand. > At this point, things appear to have deteriorated happily into > a general free-for-all, with as much verbiage being directed at > the words I used to describe Messrs. Renner and (Teddy Bear?) > as at the fate of the starving people of the world. This should not be suprising. I don't believe that direct personal attacks belong in net.politics, and apparently a few other people agree. Cheap shots and degrading insults may attract attention to the *author*, but they obscure his point. > The next chapter in the story came from rabbit!jj, > cleverly disguised as Mr. Renner. (Do Teddy Bears have names too?) Disguised? Be serious. The article was signed. The writing styles aren't similar. I don't see how Polli could have confused us. What's more, I think he's doing it again. I think JJ may be right about the topsoil, but the "Everyone-Will-Starve" argument is *not* my position, and never has been. > It appears to be the consensus of the other side that the > "Oh-Shit-Everyone-Will-Starve-If-We-Do-That" counter argument advanced > by Renner and (JJ?) is carrying the day, since I haven't yet explicitly > responded to it. Actually, the fact that Polli hasn't said anything of substance on this issue hasn't made any difference to me. I assumed it was because he didn't have anything to say. Other people have said many intelligent things on the subject, and I have found that much of this fits into my position. Now Polli promises to review "my" position and respond to it. It will be interesting to see if he says anything intelligent. Scott Renner {ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!renner