[net.politics] Collection of tax money, and some qu

renner@uiucdcs.UUCP (renner ) (02/27/84)

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uiucdcs!renner    Feb 26 20:13:00 1984

   /***** uiucdcs:net.politics / ihuxl!pvp /  7:25 pm  Feb 23, 1984 */
>  This response causes me to think about a problem we've been
>  having in net.politics discussions on various topics lately.
>  Namely, how do you respond to an article which makes absolutely
>  no sense whatsoever? 
   
This is an interesting question.  I submit that Phil Polli isn't in a very
good position to ask it.  I have copies of everything he posted on the
(hopefully dead) world hunger discussion; the first half-dozen articles
were remarkably sense-free.  

>  One type of response is to write a fairly lengthy article pointing out
>  all the errors in the article, and giving references and quotations to
>  refute it...  A second type of response is to point out that the author
>  is an ignorant idiot... A third alternative is to simply ignore the
>  article.
   
A fourth type of response is to write a personal attack against the author,
calling him a "disgrace to the human race" and comparing his morals with
those of Stalin and Idi Amin.  A fifth type of response is to set up a
straw-man argument, attribute it to your opponent, and then tear it apart.
These were Polli's favorites in the hunger discussion.  

>   I've noticed that a significant fraction of the idiot articles seem
>   to come through uiucdcs.

It's gotta be the notes interface.  *We* write sensible articles, but
notes(1) turns our stuff into gibberish.  Seriously, though, I don't
think the noise-to-sense ratio of the articles posted from U of Illinois is
any different than that of the net as a whole.  For example, Scott
Preece (uicsl!preece) routinely writes good stuff, although not so much
to net.politics.  U of I writes a lot of stuff, about 5% of the net total,
and so there is bound to be some garbage, but I've always thought that most
of the real looney-tune articles came from other sites.

Scott Renner
{ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!renner