jcjeff@ihlpg.UUCP (jeffreys) (04/06/85)
< Aren't micro-grooves wonderful ! > Here are the results of the survery I took on, to try to discover the longest running time of a seven inch single that played at 45rpm. For those who did not see the original posting, I have included the relevant part of it below. > I have just gladly given some money to the "millions of suffering people in > Africa and the United States". Yes, I purchased the 7" AND 12" versions of > "We Are The World". > > To my amazement, I found that the 7" version is 6:22 minutes long, I find > this quite incredible, only a few years ago, you were lucky to get a 4 > minute song onto a 7" single. ..... > I thought I would take up yet another poll. > > I would like to find 7" singles that have long running time. > > I would like you to follow these few rules though: > > 1. Answers must be by mail to me. PATH ..ihnp4!ihlpg!jcjeff > I will not accept answers to the net, it only clutters up the net anyway. > 2. It must be a single, not an EP. > 3. It must also be 7" in diameter > 4. The records' normal running speed must be 45rpm on the side that you > inform me of. ( I have some 7" singles that plays 33rpm, and one that > is 33rpm on one side and 45rpm on the other ! ) The 33/45rpm single I own, for anybody that may be interested, is "Love Like A Man" by Ten Years After. The 33rpm side is a live version, the 45rpm (A)side being the studio version. > 5. I am not looking for replies that say that the record is *about* minutes > long. Most records these days, have a running time on the label. If you > want to enter a title, that has not got a runtime on the label, you could > always play the record and time the duration of it :-) > 6. There is NO entrance fee :-) > > Have fun and get your votes in, I will summarize in a few weeks, or as soon > as the replies stop coming in. Ok, now you now what was happening here are the results: 7:06 Hey Jude The Beatles 6:44 Someone Saved My Life Tonight Elton John 6:33 Saftey Is A Cootie Wootie The Residents 6:20 Rock 'n' Roll Dreams Come Through Jim Steinman 5:39 Total Eclipse Of The Heart Bonnie Tyler ?? 4:39 Total Eclipse Of The Heart Bonnie Tyler The last entry confused me a bit, so I put it in twice! (see below) I thank all of you who took part. As you have seen the rules, where I did ask not to have a "I belive/think" time put in with an entry, I did not include them in the above list, but I thought you may like to see the other entries and comments I recieved, so here they are: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Residents "White Single", which is a white 7", 45RPM record that has an iris (like in your eye) for one label and comes in a clear sleeve with red marks on it (think of a bloodshot eye), has a song on one side called "Safety Is A Cootie Wooty", which is 6:33 long. David Elliott tektronix!tekecs!dce ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hey Jude is probably the most famous long single, at 7:06, but Richard Harris's MacArthur Park was longer (7:21 I believe). Unfortunately I don't have the record and I can't remember the time, but I think George Harrison's Isn't It A Pity (B side of My Sweet Lord) is even longer. (Someone who has the LP, All Things Must Pass, could tell you for sure because the 45 version is the same as the LP version.) Songs greater than 8 minutes in length, such as Don McLean's American Pie and CCR's Suzie Q were split between the two sides of the single, so that probably means that it's impossible to fit more than 8 minutes on a 7" 45. Jeff Richardson, DCIEM, Toronto (416) 635-2073 {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd}!utcsrgv!dciem!jeff {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Well, let's see... "Total Eclipse of the Heart" from Bonnie Tyler is 5:39. However, the time on the single is 4:39. "Goodnight Saigon" from Billy Joel is 5:48, I believe. "Rock 'n' Roll Dreams Come Through" by Jim Steinman is 6:20, if you include the angelical chorus at the end. There is a track in between and the song fades out and the starts up again for the chorus. But it's still about 5:45. And, just to break the rules, "Paradise by the Dashboard Lights" was 5:something. Peter Merchant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beatles' single "Hey Jude" was about 7 minutes long in 1968. Carl Moore ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Well, I can`t give you the EXACT running time, but "American Pie", Don McLean, was at least 6:30 and I wouldn`t doubt if it were over 7 minutes. The record, alas, since its purchase, had become scratched beyond acceptable limits, and somehow was lost. Oh, to have that back. Tom O`Connor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ As I remember, 'Hey Jude' was over 7 minutes. The time that I remember is 7 minutes 11 seconds, but my copy is long gone so I can't verify that. Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Someone saved my life tonight" Elton John 6:44 ..!fritz!allgair ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now I couldn't have a poll by getting people to send me mail, and then for me to edit a few files and put it on the net without doing anything myself. I decided to go through my own single collection and find what I had that I considered a long running time. I mentioned at the top of this posting that it was only a few years ago that you were lucky to get 4 minutes of a song on a single, so I used that as my lowest time in the list below. I think that you will find that most of the records are no more than about 2-3 years old. The thing that did surprise me was that the flip sides of records were, in the majority, longer than the "A" side. I therefore have denoted these "B"sides with a "*". BTW I make the total running time of American Pie 8:42 ! Both sides are listed. So without further a-do here is my own list: 6:24 Right By Your Side (Party Mix) Eurythmics * 6:22 We Are The World USA For Africa 6:14 Just Like A Woman Roberta Flack * 6:10 Jersey Girl Bruce Springsteen * 6:00 Hell Is For Children (Long Version) Pat Benatar * 5:50 Victim The Regulars * 5:28 Sprit Sade * 5:05 Blue Highway Billy Idol * 5:01 Behind Your Smile (Live Version) Paul Young * 4:59 Loverboy (Dub Mix) Bill Ocean * 4:58 Snowblind Styx * 4:58 I Want To Know What Love Is Foreigner 4:58 Comming Home Scorpions * 4:54 Smooth Operator Sade 4:53 Think Of Me Madonna * 4:52 New Religion Duran Duran * 4:51 Gravity Dennis DeYoung * 4:50 Maybe We Went Too Far Scandal * 4:49 Cold, Dark And Yesterday Hall & Oates * 4:48 Round And Round Lionel Richie * 4:48 One September Monday Frankie Goes To Hollywood * 4:48 Desert Moon Dennis DeYoung 4:47 Cha Cha Loco Joe Jackson * 4:46 Killing Me Softly With His Song Roberta Flack 4:44 Mr. Roboto Styx 4:43 Hard Habit To Break Chicago 4:40 Faster Than The Speed Of Night Bonnie Tyler * 4:40 Easy Lover Philip Baily & Phil Collins * 4:39 The Challange Christine McVie * 4:38 Rock And Roll Widow Tina Turner * 4:37 Chinatown Chaka Khan * 4:37 Bank On Your Love Hall & Oates * 4:36 Nightline Pointer Sisters * 4:35 Well I Don't Know Julian Lennon * 4:34 Maneater Hall & Oates * 4:31 American Pie - Part Two Don Mclean * 4:30 Grace Quincy Jones * 4:29 You've Got A Freind James Taylor 4:29 Holding Out For A Hero Bonnie Tyler 4:29 Generation Landslide Alice Cooper * 4:28 Remember The Feeling Chicago * 4:28 Doctor! 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Thompson Twins 4:27 Silver Rainbow Genesis * 4:26 Stranger Eyes The Cars * 4:25 Your So Vain Carly Simon 4:25 The Reflex Duran Duran 4:25 One More Night Phil Collins 4:24 Dance Electric Pointer Sisters * 4:23 I See You In Everyone Survivor * 4:22 Called Her Name Nazareth * 4:21 We Are The Children Of The World Diana Ross * 4:19 Tonight Scandal * 4:18 Ti Amo Laura Branigan 4:18 So You Want To Be (A Rock & Roll Star) Patti Smith Group * 4:18 Less Than Half Scandal * 4:16 Jack And Diane John Couger 4:15 Valotte Julian Lennon 4:15 Feed The World Band Aid * 4:14 The Wild Boys Duran Duran 4:13 Drop Dead Legs Van Halen * 4:12 Tommorrow Leo Sayer * 4:11 American Pie - Part One Don Mclean 4:10 The Lucky One Laura Branigan 4:10 Rock You Like A Hurricane Scorpions 4:10 I'll Fall In Love Again Sammy Hagar * 4:10 I Do'wanna Know REO Speedwagon 4:10 Chippin' Away Night Ranger * 4:08 Sad Songs (Say So Much) Elton John 4:08 High On You Survivor 4:08 Eyes Without A Face Billy Idol 4:07 Layin' It On The Line Jefferson Starship 4:07 Hello Lionel Richie 4:07 Hands Tied Scandal 4:07 Ghostbusters (Instrumental) Ray Parker Jr. * 4:05 Nurse Shark Thompson Twins * 4:05 I'll Kiss You Cyndi Lauper * 4:04 Stay Madonna * 4:04 Sister Christian Night Ranger 4:04 Jump Van Halen * 4:03 Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming Jermaine Jackson * 4:03 I Feel For You Chaka Khan 4:03 Beat Of A Heart Scandal 4:02 When You Close Your Eyes Night Ranger 4:02 Mrs Robinson Simon & Garfunkel 4:01 Softer Ride Status Quo * 4:01 Only The Young Journey 4:01 Missing You Diana Ross 4:00 Street Thunder Foreigner * 4:00 Love Is A Battlefield Pat Benatar 4:00 Cracks In the Pavement Duran Duran * There were a great deal of records that did not make the list because they were only one or two seconds short of the 4:00 cut-off I used. If there are a few groups you havn't heard of before don't worry about it. My record collection started a long time ago in England, and some of the groups never "made it" accross the pond! If you got down to this part of the posting without giving up. I thank you, and I hope you enjoyed it. If by some chance you would like to know what the "A" side of one of the "B" sides was please mail me and I will send the information on. -- [ There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold, and she's buying a staiway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || From the keys of Richard Jeffreys ( British Citizen Overseas ) || || employed by North American Philips Corporation || || @ AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, Illinois || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || General disclaimer about anything and everything that I may have typed || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------