[net.politics] Reagon and deserving students

trc@hou5a.UUCP (03/28/84)

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Scott Barman:

Just a comment - you complain that Reagon changed "the laws in a way that 
a deserving student loses his financial aid with 2 quarters to go - with 
no other means of paying for an expensive college education..."  Presumably
you were that "deserving" student?  And yet in the very next sentence you
state "I made it WITHOUT THAT BASTARD'S HELP!!!!!!" - which seems to 
contradict your statement that there was "no other means".  You seem to 
have proved Reagon's point for him - namely that government support is not 
really necessary in many (most?) cases.

My own thought goes a bit further - what do you mean by "deserving"?  In 
the ordinary sense of the word, this means "having earned".  What exactly 
did you do to earn a college education, supported by government backed 
loans?  If you were such a great credit risk (and we all know what good 
credit risks college students are) why couldnt you get a loan from a bank?  
And if you could, why would you need the government backed loan?  

In fact, I suspect you are using "deserve" in the sense that many modern 
liberals use it.  That is, something that someone has promised one, whether 
they should have or not, is "deserved" by the recipient.  Then the recipient 
denies any attempt to stop the giveaway that shouldnt have been started 
in the first place, on the grounds that it is "deserved".  Deserved how?  
Somehow...  The unspoken assumption is "well, they wouldnt have promised 
it if I didnt deserve it, hence I must deserve it".  It *assumes* rationality 
on the part of the giver, in judging the recipient's "deservedness", and 
uses that *presumed* rational judgement of deservedness to oppose any 
rational attempts to stop the giveaway.  This is a simple example of the 
"stolen concept", put into action.  In this case, the stolen concept seems
to be "the validity of reason", and after it is stolen, it is used it to 
*deny* the validity of reason in the denial of "deservedness".

	Tom Craver
	hou5a!trc

jbf@ccieng5.UUCP (Jens Bernhard Fiederer) (03/30/84)

While "deserving" may not be the exact word, if someone plans his life
based on promises made by the government, and the government retracts these
promises, the person has a right to be upset.  In a way, a contract has
been broken.  Whether the blame should be placed on the one who made
unkeepable promises or the one who broke them is anybodies guess.

By the way, Reagan has no o's.

Gus the Travelling Vacuum Cleaner Salesman
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