welsch@houxu.UUCP (Larry Welsch) (08/14/84)
I am pleased to announce I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes. Ronald Reagan Saturday, August 11, 1984
david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (08/14/84)
>I am pleased to announce I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia >forever. The bombing begins in five minutes. > Ronald Reagan > Saturday, August 11, 1984 What disturbed me was not the joking with reference to nuclear war (who among us was offended by the Bloom County strip whose punch line was "Shall we dust Moscow, Mr. President?"). There is nothing wrong with dark humor. However, what makes me sick is that it was NOT dark humor, and that Reagan seems to view the removal of Russia from the planet as an event he would not regret. His use of Russia, rather than Soviet Union, indicates he is talking of the annihilation of a people/ culture/nation instead of the bloody defeat of a government/idealogy. Does this mean he does not see a difference between war and genocide? David Rubin {allegra|astrovax|princeton}!fisher!david
mjk@tty3b.UUCP (Mike Kelly) (08/14/84)
Reagan's off-hand attitude towards nuclear war is no surprise to those who know his history. As Gil Scott-Heron, noted blues-ologist, said about Reagan, "now we're supposed to believe that the man who called for a bloodbath on our college campuses is Dudley goddamn DoRight?" Mike Kelly
rjb@akgua.UUCP (R.J. Brown [Bob]) (08/16/84)
How bout it David ?
Don't you think you are reading just a tad too much
into a little smart mouthin' by the Prez ?
Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}
AT&T Technologies, Inc.............. Norcross, Ga
(404) 447-3784 ... Cornet 583-3784davenger@ssc-vax.UUCP (John W Jobe) (08/17/84)
/*a sacrifice, to the Gods of Improbability...*/ Oh, come on, people! I am an avowed Reagan detractor, and I would like little more than seeing his semi-senile behind out of the Oval Office, but this is just too much. I mean, good grief, considering who Ron is, and his political constituency, the damn statement was a *joke*!! Even Ron ain't stupid enough to *actually* do something like that!!! Come on, Netters, where's your sense of humor? I thought it was pretty funny, myself. Outlaw Russia indeed. Foo. -- From the oftimes fiery but seldom understood keyboard of the dark avenger (...!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!davenger)
david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (08/18/84)
Well, Bob, I think his jokes reveal something about what he views as
desirable, and also that he doesn't have enough sense to keep it to
himself.
David Rubin
{allegra|astrovax|princeton}!fisher!davidfaustus@ucbvax.UUCP (Wayne Christopher) (08/20/84)
Sure, the statement WAS a joke, but that's not the point. The point is that Reagan has the sort of outlook on things that leads him to make jokes like this. I don't think it is a very funny joke, and I think that most rational people wouldn't say something like that, no matter how humorously thay mean it to be taken. It's like some of the really disgusting jokes you sometimes see in net.jokes, like "What's the difference between a Jew and a pizza? The pizza doesn't scream when you put it into the oven." When I see jokes like this, I don't get quite as upset, because I know that the person who thinks it's funny is probably some psychotic who gets his kicks from torturing puppies. Now, if I knew that he was in fact a famous doctor or statesman or something like that, I would be upset. It's like that with Reagan and his "joke". Just because "he wasn't really serious, just kidding around a bit" doesn't make it any less significant. Wayne
david@randvax.UUCP (David Shlapak) (08/25/84)
---------- >Sure, the statement WAS a joke, but that's not the point. The >point is that Reagan has the sort of outlook on things that >leads him to make jokes like this. I don't think it is a very >funny joke, and I think that most rational people wouldn't say >something like that, no matter how humorously thay mean it to be >taken. It's like some of the really disgusting jokes you >sometimes see in net.jokes, like "What's the difference between >a Jew and a pizza? The pizza doesn't scream when you put it >into the oven." When I see jokes like this, I don't get quite >as upset, because I know that the person who thinks it's funny >is probably some psychotic who gets his kicks from torturing >puppies. Now, if I knew that he was in fact a famous doctor or >statesman or something like that, I would be upset. It's like >that with Reagan and his "joke". Just because "he wasn't really >serious, just kidding around a bit" doesn't make it any less >significant. > > Wayne Holy moley, pal, do you take everything this seriously? You must be a real blast at a party! I joke about stuff like that all the time, and I consider myself (and am considered by those who know me) an eminently "rational" person. What strikes me as irrational is the paranoia that compels some people to find dark motives hidden behind the most innocent of acts. And besides, I do not "get my kicks from torturing puppies (I leave that to Syrians);" I get mine from torturing ideologues... From your favorite psychotic and mine, --- das
nrh@inmet.UUCP (08/29/84)
#R:houxu:-42600:inmet:7800132:000:189 inmet!nrh Aug 27 22:31:00 1984 Re the "Russia has been outlawed" joke, and ideas that it reflects Ronnie's true character: C'mon, folks. Freud said it, I think: "Sometimes a Cigar is just a cigar". Nat Howard