peduto@pyuxv.UUCP (S A Peduto) (08/24/84)
Was I the only one who felt that the sight of the Republican Convention delegates screaming t the top of their lungs in a mad frenzy, "U.S.A.! U.S.A.!" was reminescent of the Nazi party rallies in the 30's. Perhaps if we give him four more years, this may be the last election we ever have.
wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) (08/27/84)
Your flipant use of the term "Nazi" in reffering to the convention last week was just plain intolerable. Can't you use enough brains and good sense to think before you post such claptrap? I suppose all of those thousands of fans at the Olympics fall into your view also? Or, how about ANY group of people cheering for some reason, do they also fit your stereotype? Someone should wash your mouth out with soap and teach you a little understanding of what the term nazi means. I'm getting damn tired of pencil-necked bozos throwing around the nazi epitath every time they disagree with something. Why didn't you use the same criteria to slam the Democratic Convention attendees for their cheering? Wake up, get on the bus, That kind of posting only proves the immaturity of thinking. T. C. Wheeler USA, USA, USA rah, rah, rah. Clemson, Clemson, Clemson, rah, rah, rah. Hoquiam High School, rah, rah, rah.
orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) (08/27/84)
Yes, the myopia, delusion and intolerance demonstrated at the Republican Convention scared me and made me think of Germany in the 30's. The situation is obviously different but the blind fanaticism is the same. The war-fervor and intense chauvinism which the Republican Convention expressed worries me greatly. Do these people realize the next major war will probably be the LAST major war? Do they realize that there are other lifestyles in America than those of born-again Christians? "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" seemed tame when Barry Goldwater repeated the invocation to a possible nuclear war before this crowd. The Republican platform reflects this extremism in many ways-the total lack of any support for women's rights--for decades the Republican party has supported the Equal Rights Amendment. Is there any concern for the Environment? The Platform denounces the UN for its antisemitism, anti-Americanism etc. and announces that the US will leave the UN with Israel withou a second's hesitation. These people (like many Americans unfortunately) never stop to think, why is it that so may countries and people in the world don't like America or the American government? Is it simply because of Communist infiltration? Or is it because of support for apartheid in South Africa, for Augusto Pinochet as dictator of Chile (who announced recently that relations had never been better between he and the US than under the Reagan administration), for repressive regimes around the world, so long as American companies can make their profits? The Reagan administration has already pulled out of UNESCO--they would like nothing better than to carry out the longtime far right policy of pulling out of the UN entirely. Why be bothered with what the rest of the world thinks? We're America, we can tell them all how to live! "Population increase is natural and good for the economy"--this is the latest shortsighted credo being pronounced by the far right and the Reagan administration. Perhaps we may be able to keep the billions brought into Earth by the population explosion alive or existing-- but do we want to live like ants? What kind of life will it be with billions more people on this planet? I hope and pray that the American people have more sense than to vote for this type of extremism. Tim Sevener whuxl!orb Bell Labs, Whippany
adm@cbneb.UUCP (08/27/84)
#R:pyuxv:-59200:cbneb:18400002:000:35 cbneb!gdt Aug 27 11:01:00 1984 Last one for the Democrates, yeah!
cher@ihuxi.UUCP (Mike Musing) (08/28/84)
> Was I the only one who felt that the sight of the Republican Convention > delegates screaming t the top of their lungs in a mad frenzy, "U.S.A.! > U.S.A.!" was reminescent of the Nazi party rallies in the 30's. > > Perhaps if we give him four more years, this may be the last election we > ever have. Come on! More reminiscent then "We want Fritz" or "I am somebody"?
holt@convex.UUCP (08/29/84)
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convex!holt Aug 29 08:28:00 1984
It is a sad sign when the supporters of Mondale/Ferraro revert
to calling Republicans "Nazis". Name calling, especially when blatantly
untrue, is more of an indictment against the name callers than those whose
names were sullied.
In fact, now that I think about it, Tim Sevener was calling me a
"Nazi". I was at the convention, and I shouted "4 more years", "U.S.A.",
and "Reagan" along with the rest of the crowd. The reason that I shouted
these slogans was not due to "Nazi" leanings on my part, far from it. I
shouted them because I overwhelmingly support Reagan/Bush over Mondale/Ferraro,
and because it was exciting to be at the convention. I deplore the
genocide practiced by Nazi Germany. I deplore the concept of a "master race".
I deplore those ideals which "Nazis" hold dear.
Please Mr Sevener, don't use the methods used by tyrants of the past,
the big lie, to try and achieve your goals. I resent it, and many other people
resent it as well.
Dave Holt
Convex Computer Corp.
{allegra,ihnp4,uiucdcs,ctvax}!convex!holtalbrecht@bsdgvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) (08/29/84)
[] > Was I the only one who felt that the sight of the Republican Convention > delegates screaming t the top of their lungs in a mad frenzy, "U.S.A.! > U.S.A.!" was reminescent of the Nazi party rallies in the 30's. I think it was intended to remind us of the recent Olympics. Remember all those smiling Olympians present the one evening. -- Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. SDG/Devon
pollack@uicsl.UUCP (08/29/84)
#R:pyuxv:-59200:uicsl:28100006:000:1705 uicsl!pollack Aug 29 14:23:00 1984 [Dead Marines can't spend like Drunken Sailors...] > Was I the only one who felt that the sight of the Republican Convention > delegates screaming t the top of their lungs in a mad frenzy, "U.S.A.! > U.S.A.!" was reminescent of the Nazi party rallies in the 30's. > > Perhaps if we give him four more years, this may be the last election we > ever have. No, you were not the only one. Besides the mad and frenzied jingoism, other things that upset my stomach was the quashing of dissent -- for example, the use of "Reagan-Bush operatives" pressuring people to remove their names from a nuclear freeze petition -- and the ubiquitous "Reagan Youth" -- who were responsible for massive numbers of "hand painted" signs, who shouted the loudest on cue, and who provided the youthful muscle necessary to bi-dexterously wave obscenely large US flags. Other aspects which reminded me of a charismatic european leader of the 1930's were certain catch phrases in Ron's acceptance speech: "We are in the midst of a Springtime of Hope for America; Greatness Lies ahead of us!" "No one will be able to hold America back; The future is Ours" I've been trying to understand the implicit historical analogy: obviously a charismatic leader rises to power on an economic recovery following a recession; obviously jingoism rises in response to international humiliation -- of course to compare France's control of the Rhineland to the hostages of Iran is a little off. Anyhow, I tend to view the Right's resurgence as a response to the progress in pacifism, environmentalism, feminism and civil rights of the 70's. Hopefully, the pendulum will swing back to the left real soon now... Jordan
albrecht@bsdgvax.UUCP (Tom Albrecht) (09/05/84)
[] > Anyhow, I tend to view the Right's resurgence as a response to the > progress in pacifism, environmentalism, feminism and civil rights of > the 70's. Hopefully, the pendulum will swing back to the left > real soon now... Hopefully, it won't ... -- Tom Albrecht Burroughs Corp. SDG/Devon