mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) (11/02/84)
=========== "He who is ignorant of History is doomed to repeat it." -approximate quote of Santanyana The history of the 1930's clearly illustrates the dangers of appeasement. We ought not to think, though, that history becan with the Treaty of Versailles. There are other lessons to be learned. Just as appeasement encouraged the aggressor and led to WWII, jingoism and unwillingness to compromise differences brought us WWI. Both extremes are to be avoided. Being labeled a "liberal" is not an indication that one is an appeaser (after all, it was those "liberals" who saw enough of a threat in the Soviet Union to begin the cold war), and Mondale is no Chamberlain. I hope that Reagan is no Bethemann, and will not involve us in a war not in our own interests, but in those of a desperate "ally" and made possible by the granting of some ill-considered "blank check". Remember that the German political establishment did not want war in 1914, but unwisely gave unconditional assurances to an Austrian state which was probably doomed anyway, and certainly desperate. History is not an Aesop's fable with a single moral; it holds many lessons and illustrative examples. =========== The whole article from which this is extracted is well worth pondering; but there are other lessons to be learned both from Versailles and from the inter-war period (only 20 years, which we tend to forget). Versailles led directly to WWII, partly because of the insistence of the victors (except Wilson of the USA) that the losers were to have no dignity and were to pay for the whole affair (it was called "reparations"). When you treat an "enemy" as if he is not human, he will not easily become your friend. After WWII, the victorious allies did not make that mistake, and (West) Germany and Japan became members of a group of closely linked countries. The mistake many of our net-writers (and Reaganites) make is to act as if our adversaries were evil, rather than being people whose interests conflict with ours. Certainly there are evil people over there, just as there are evil people here. But the conflict is not about evil. It is about interests. They are in the main just as reasonable as we are, and they deserve to be treated so. The "evil" in Reagan is that he has allowed it to become respectable to treat those with different interests as pariahs, not to be spoken with, and certainly not to be honoured with serious negotiations that might perhaps resolve conflicts of interest. It as also not as clear-cut as Rubin puts it that appeasement led to WWII. The well-known moment of appeasement was when Chamberlain went to Munich and helped Hitler carve up Czechoslovakia. But had he stood firm then, it is possible that the relative imbalance of forces would have been worse than it was a year later, and that we would now be looking across the Atlantic at a Nazi Europe. The real moment of appeasement was when Hitler's first territorial grab was not opposed at a time when he might have been toppled by the least opposition (the re-militarization of the Saarland(?) in violation of the Versailles Treaty, which wasn't actually a territorial grab but had a similar effect). Then there was implicit appeasement in the failure of Britain and France to maintain their armed forces properly until too late. To a large extent this was done to avoid annoying Hitler (in Britain, at least), as well as because Baldwin and Chamberlain believed in the power of rational discussion. The lesson seems to be that appeasement itself is not wrong, but appeasement at the wrong time is wrong. For our time, the lesson perhaps is that we should always be able to ensure we can hurt them worse than they can tolerate if they try to play nasty, but at the same time to talk and to see in what way we can both find other ways to resolve our real differences. We don't need enough weapons to destroy the USSR utterly, let alone many times over. But we do need enough to be sure they won't want them used -- ever. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsrgv!dciem!mmt