[net.politics] Some replies to Mike Kelly

simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) (11/05/84)

In article <516@tty3b.UUCP> mjk@tty3b.UUCP (Mike Kelly) writes:
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>My article was simply commenting on the number of people who support  Reagan
>seemingly only because it's in their narrow economic interest to do so.   To
>me, that's craven politics at its worst.

     At the risk of repeating myself, let me comment:

(1)  I am one of the Reagan supporters to whom you refer. I also  know  per-
     sonally many others.

(2)  Neither I nor they are supporting him out of "narrow economic interest".
     We  happen  to  believe that the best benefit we can give the poor is a
     healthy, growing economy, wherein the greatest number can find a  place
     to contibute their talents and be compensated for it.  We don't believe
     in a constant-wealth model, in which the "rich" can  only  prosper  and
     remain  rich  by  grubbing  the  "share"  of the poor and middle-income
     groups.

(3)  The figures indicate that twenty years of tax-driven "compassion"  have
     milked  taxpayers  of  all levels of some five-hundred-BILLION dollars.
     The resultant benefit to the poor?  The poor have gone  from  14.7%  of
     the population to 15%.

     Simply put, it is not "narrow  economic  interest"  or  selfishness  to
demand  an end to the forced draining of our productive labors to be dropped
down this rathole. Show me results, and I'll back  your  programs.  But  you
can't; there aren't any.

>What can a President do?  He can take seriously the potential of  arms  con-
>trol and negotiate with the Soviets, like every other President for the past
>thirty years.  Reagan hasn't.

     I can't recall exactly how many times  we've  been  to  the  bargaining
table  since  Reagan  took  office,  but  I do recall who it was that either
refused to arrive or walked out every time.  And  it  wasn't  the  U.S.  The
Soviets  are very much aware of the public pressure on the Administration to
get an arms deal, and they are not about to waste that  opportunity  by  not
holding  out  for  a  much more favorable (to them) accord than would be the
case without that pressure. Reagan has striven no less than other presidents
- but it takes two to tango, and the Soviets are sitting this one out, wait-
ing for a tune they like better.

     The Soviets have made it clear they don't like Reagan  very  much,  and
you  can  bet  that, among other reasons, they have held back from realistic
negotiations to deny Reagan an arms agreement and therefore harm his chances
for reelection. If, as it appears, he is reelected anyway, they may continue
to play the same game, or maybe face facts.

>He can take seriously the threat of industrial waste and acid rain and  move
>agressively to address these problems.  Reagan hasn't.

     Admittedly,  the  environment  is  not  Reagan's  most  shining   area.
Nevertheless, the spate of vitriol aimed at him from the environmental advo-
cates is mostly undeserved. What I keep hearing, on  this  net  and  in  the
news,  is  complaints,  not about the environment _p_e_r__s_e, but about how many
corporations are being investigated, prosecuted or fined. This  says  a  lot
about  the most vocal of the "environmentalists". If they would become truly
pro-environment, instead of anti-business and anti-corporate, they would get
a  much  better  hearing-  and they'd find out that Reagan hasn't been doing
that badly.

>He can pursue sane defense policies, based on eliminating the waste  in  the
>Pentagon budget (now at $300 billion).  Reagan hasn't.

     Negative. Reagan has asked for  waste  reduction.  Let's  define  waste
properly,  not  merely  in  terms of military programs one doesn't happen to
agree with.  (I agree that, like the rest of the  federal  bureaucracy,  the
military is overfed.)

>He can pressure for democracy from  countries  depending  on  U.S.  support,
>rather  than legitimizing dictatorships in Chile, Guatemala, the Phillipines
>and South Africa.  He hasn't done that either.

     Funny how, over the past several administrations, most of these  dicta-
torships  were in existence much as they are now. But somehow, Mr. Reagan is
suddenly responsible for "legitimizing" them.

     We have fought long and hard to get the government  out  of  specifying
what is moral and what isn't in our personal lives. We don't want the police
asking about our sexual habits,  or  busting  couples  cohabitating  out  of
wedlock.  Yet,  we are supposed to be the moral authority over the globe. We
don't have the right.

     Our decision to support these often unpleasant governments is that,  in
the  opinions  of  those employed to study such things, the failure to do so
would cause more damage, to that country as well as ours, than to help  keep
the  current  government  afloat.   Those opinions may be wrong, and I don't
always agree with them (Allende in Chile, for instance), but I don't believe
we have any business specifying the way other governments must govern before
we will support them.
-- 
[     I am not a stranger, but a friend you haven't met yet     ]

Ray Simard
Loral Instrumentation, San Diego
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