brener@milrat.DEC (11/02/84)
the book that milo refers to justifying the invasion of grenada is approx. 800 pages of information *sifted* from 35,000 of documents retrieved by the marines during the invasion. the book was written in collaboration with the state dept. and obviously had a pre- determined point to prove. from 35,000 lbs of ducuments one is likely to be able to justify almost anything if they are *selective* enough about it.(excuse me, but i meant up top to write 800 pages of info sifted from 35,000 lbs of documents). if the russians were to write a book concerning u.s. policy toward them and cited such examples as reagan's joke about outlawing and bombing them only a single message would come across, regardless of what full disclosure of the facts may have revealed. steve b
faustus@ucbcad.UUCP (11/03/84)
> the book that milo refers to justifying the invasion of grenada is > approx. 800 pages of information *sifted* from 35,000 of documents > retrieved by the marines during the invasion. the book was written > in collaboration with the state dept. and obviously had a pre- > determined point to prove. from 35,000 lbs of ducuments one is likely > to be able to justify almost anything if they are *selective* enough > about it.(excuse me, but i meant up top to write 800 pages of info > sifted from 35,000 lbs of documents). if the russians were to write > a book concerning u.s. policy toward them and cited such examples as > reagan's joke about outlawing and bombing them only a single message > would come across, regardless of what full disclosure of the facts > may have revealed. > > > steve b I guess some people are just too dense to know when they've been proven wrong... Have you read the book? There are letters from high Grenadan officials to the Soviet government declaring solidarity with the USSR, and asking for military and political aid for their new government. I don't think you can get more obvious than that. Have you read the other 35,000 lbs of documents, and do you have any grounds for claiming that there was anything more significant than dog license records? It's amazing how quickly people discover conspiracies when they can't justify their beliefs otherwise... (Actually, the Grenadan invasion was engineered by Adam Weishaupt, who is actually an octopus from Atlantis...) Wayne
myers@uwvax.UUCP (Jeff Myers) (11/05/84)
> > Have you read the book? There are letters from high Grenadan officials > to the Soviet government declaring solidarity with the USSR, and asking > for military and political aid for their new government. I don't think you > can get more obvious than that. Have you read the other 35,000 lbs of > documents, and do you have any grounds for claiming that there was anything > more significant than dog license records? It's amazing how quickly people > discover conspiracies when they can't justify their beliefs otherwise... > > Wayne How do requests for aid from the leaders of the military coup support the view that it was ENGINEERED by the Soviets rather than a personal power-grab? Why don't some owners of the book post something that purportedly shows USSR complicity? We have our troops all over the fucking place. Why do people get so upset about a couple of hundred Cuban soldiers? If you insist that high levels of military aid is the sign of a desire for a coup, you may have to reconsider your opinion on Chile in 1973, El Salvador now, etc. It's amazing how quickly people discover "the red menace" when they can't justify their beliefs otherwise. Jeff