[net.politics] Wrong again JoSH

nxs@fluke.UUCP (Bruce Golub) (02/01/85)

> Nope, I never read Goebbels.  I just applied the rule of thumb,
> "If a government kills more than a million of its own citizens
> inside a ten-year period, it's probably socialist."
> 
> > P.S. JoSH's critically wrong assumption is that all "state-first,
> > individual-last" philosophies are socialist.  Actually, there are many
> > varieties, some socialist, some not.  The Nazis fall in the latter
> > category.
> 
> Right.  I use the term as a catchall. If you want to nitpick about the
> various denominations of that religion, go ahead, I won't argue about it.
> 
> --JoSH

JoSH, you're an asshole. (I use that term as a catch-all). If you want to
have your own private reality about how the world is, fine, but keep it
private.

Now, read my lips ...

    This newsgroup is for discussing our opinions about political
    situations, application of politics, the type of politics that exist in
    the world, current events (how they influance the political environment)
    etc.

Now when you have finished your elementary history and social studies
classes, we will gladly welcome you back. Until then, Shut-up.   

First, I surprised that you read at all (outside of the National Enquirer),
although I am implying this by reading between the lines (you said you never
read Goebbles).

Second, socialism does and has had many permutations. None of which fit your
'rule-of-thumb' (which sounds more like a rule-of-mouth).

Third, socialism is not, by any stretch of a healthy imagination, a religion.

Forth, instead of not argueing, GO AWAY LITTLE BOY, you're bothering us.


Bruce Golub

...Never atribute to malice what can be explained as stupidity.

josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) (02/05/85)

> JoSH, you're an asshole. ...
> Bruce Golub

Proved my point, I think--if Golub styles himself a socialist, 
wouldn't you like him at the reins of your government?  --Especially
a socialist government, that gets to decide whether you eat or not?

The unthinking, self-righteous emotionalism evident in Golub's tirade
is quite simply the most evil force in human history.  The willingness
to strip others of their economic rights "for the good of the whole"
leads so easily to the willingness to strip them of their lives;
This is why mass murder is one of the (more spectacular) hallmarks
of a collectivist society.

--JoSH