orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) (02/05/85)
> > > I guess the "H" in JoSH stands for Humpty-Dumpty .... Words mean exactly > > what I wish them to mean, no more, no less .... > ... > > For what it's worth: to me, a socialist cares about all the people in > > a society, ... Libertarians (as self-defined on this net) care > > only for themselves. > > > Martin Taylor > > Well, there's nothing like castigating someone for something, and > then doing the very thing yourself, as flagrantly as possible... > > You've got your definitions exactly backwards. Socialists care only > for themselves, for the things that matter: Morality, justice, > freedom, power. They put on a front of concern about material > equality--hunks of matter distributed by head count--as a rationalization > for their lust to control, their ivory-tower contempt for the > ability of ordinary people to make their own way in life. > > Libertarians, on the other hand, crave an equality of justice, an > equality of rights, an equality of moral personhood and responsibility. > For this they are willing to put up with the uneven distribution > of material goods that must result. > > --JoSH I know that Danny Mck. won't believe this but I actually find his postings quite intriguing and interesting. While I am not sure of exactly what he stands for (opposing Friedman, Rand and the usual Libertarian voices) I think he is very knowledgeable and makes some good points. But JoSH, on the other hand, seems to supply nothing but invective and arguments that rest solely on his esteemed opinion. I have occassionally peeped into this "what is socialism?" topic and found it tiresome and boring, primarily because of JoSH and his invective which tends to inspire the same. There is no point arguing with opinion: I suggest those who disagree with JoSH simply "n-key" all his articles instead of wasting their time wallowing in the mud. There are some very thoughtful Libertarians out there to respond to. (for example, the point about many Socialists considering the economy as "static" is one that I agree with and have given some thought to. It is a MAJOR problem for Socialists) Let the Libertarians deal with JoSH! tim sevener whuxl!orb