[net.politics] Wage Rates -- Reply #1 to Kelly

mck@ratex.UUCP (Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan) (02/10/85)

Lines begun with a '>>' are from gam (sorry, but I don't know who gam is).
Lines begun with a '>' are from Mike Kelly.

>>The point is not to show that unions are "bad", but that if unions
>>insist on establishing minimum-wage requirements (when the minimum
>>wage is above equalibrium), the consequences are that some people
>>will be unemployed.
>>
>>This is a fact, not economic theory.
>
>The consequences are such only if capital is allowed to
>define economic fact.  Unemployment is a political problem, not an
>economic fact.  That it remains is evidence of lack of
>political will to solve it.

Well, you're partly right, but mostly wrong.  Unemployment is both a
political problem and an economic fact (how could a fact of our economy not
be economic?).  We can indeed eliminate unemployment by political action,
but we cannot legislate fundamental economic law.  Eliminating minimum wage
laws, preventing unions from forcibly interfering with workers who try to
bid-down the wage-rate, changing subsidy structures, et cetera, would do
away with all but frictional unemployment (frictional unemployment is
simply that unemployment which results because people entering the job
market do not INSTANTLY find and accept jobs).  On the other hand,
unemployment could be eliminated by simply seizing the means of production
and giving everybody a job.  But just as minimum-wage laws have
consequences that most of their proponents fail to see, this dictatorial
full employment will cause some pretty nasty things.
     The performance of an economy is directly linked to how well reward
corresponds to MVP (marginal value product).  Now, Libertarians reject a
coerced patterning of distribution, and thus cannot be in favor of forcing
a maximal correspondence of reward to MVP; most Libertarians would like to
see charitable acts; and most Libertarians believe that parents have
enforceable obligations to their children (altho, admittedly, some
Libertarians have developed the very peculiar idea that children are just
short adults, and that when a child becomes unwanted it is a trespasser).
Nevertheless, the Free Economy comes very close to maximizing the
correspondence between reward and MVP (the only way to get closer is to ban
charity et cetera).
     Minimum wage laws, et cetera, induce unemployment because employers
try to hire that number of workers where the price of labor equals MVP.  To
force hiring past this point will mean a further break-down of
correspondence.  In short order this will translate into a decline in real
wages (nominal wages may remain the same, but won't buy as much).  The
centrally planned economies of the world have poor correspondence between
reward and MVP, one of the reasons being their full unemployment and fixed
wage policies, which is why their workers work harder but receive less.
And, tho they have controlled internal markets, they nevertheless can take
advantage of market processes by adjusting domestic prices to correspond to
prices in the free-er world (which they end up doing on a regular basis;
and even this doesn't work too well in that: 1) the prices of the free-er
world are not pure market prices and 2) domestic conditions are not
identical to, say, American conditions, so that American prices are not
truly appropriate).  If the free-er world goes to central planning, it
won't have any market to mimic, and things will rapidly get screwed-up
(which is a euphemistic way of saying that millions will starve etc).

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                                        Mc Kiernan

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