[net.politics] For Carrick Talmadge

arndt@lymph.DEC (02/25/85)

Thanks for not trying to impugn my character - when it would have been so
easy!

As for my source of information about the Grenada rifles - well, would

                GUNG HO magazine lie????

Keep chargin'

Ken Arndt

trio@idis.UUCP (02/26/85)

In reference to Ken Arndt's article on his source of information on arms
winding up moving from Grenada, I must admit that most of the stuff I've
read in GUNG HO magazine is accurate (I'm not always sure about those "I
was run over by an M-1 Abrams tank" type articles.  However, their editor,
Jim Schultz does have the credentials (he was in the U.S. Special Forces
during Vietnam and used to work for Soldier of Fortune magazine).

Speaking for myself, I tend to prefer SOLDIER OF FORTUNE magazine for its
accuracy.  In fact, I've used articles from "SOF" in papers I've submitted
while in graduate school.  Also, I know one of their occasional writers, and
contrary to popular belief, those guys are the type of folks that you can 
sit with and have a beer (not rape, pillage, and plunder).

So Ken, I do trust your source and thank you for calling the info to my
attention.  By the way, I'm still waiting for more responsises to my
"Hostage Incidents" article in net.politics (I only got two responses!)
before I summarize to the net.
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gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg Kuperberg) (02/26/85)

> As for my source of information about the Grenada rifles - well, would
> 
>                 GUNG HO magazine lie????
> 
> Keep chargin'
> 
> Ken Arndt

Yes.
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			Greg Kuperberg
		     harvard!talcott!gjk

"2*x^5-10*x+5=0 is not solvable by radicals." -Evariste Galois.

david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (02/27/85)

> 
> Thanks for not trying to impugn my character - when it would have been so
> easy!
> 
> As for my source of information about the Grenada rifles - well, would
> 
>                 GUNG HO magazine lie????
> 
> Keep chargin'
> 
> Ken Arndt

Gung Ho magazine?!? You must have forgotten to put a smiley face after
your authoritative (:-)) source, Ken.

					David Rubin

edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) (02/28/85)

> In reference to Ken Arndt's article on his source of information on arms
> winding up moving from Grenada, I must admit that most of the stuff I've
> read in GUNG HO magazine is accurate (I'm not always sure about those "I
> was run over by an M-1 Abrams tank" type articles.  However, their editor,
> Jim Schultz does have the credentials (he was in the U.S. Special Forces
> during Vietnam and used to work for Soldier of Fortune magazine).
> 
> Nick Trio

This is supposed to make GUNG HO look credible?  Oh, come on now!
Having been in US Special Services or worked for SOF magazine doesn't
establish a reputation for factuality.  Credentials?  It's like using
The National Enquirer as a source of information on medical treatment.

There are many independent journals on military and defense subjects,
with sound academic reputations.  GUNG HO (or SOF) isn't one of them.
The Rand library doesn't even subscribe to them (and it subscribes to
dozens of journals on all aspects of military and defense policy).

You can be sure that if there is a substantial factual basis for
the serial-number story, we'll hear more about it.  And it won't be
from SOF or GUNG HO.

(Concerning the matter at hand--it really wouldn't surprise me too
much if weapons went through Grenada.  After all, we've known all
along that the Nicaraguans have been getting Soviet weapons, as have
the Cubans and the former administration of Grenada.  Where else
could they get them from?  The US???  Now, Grenada certainly seemed
to be storing a lot more weapons than they could use for self-defense.
So it wouldn't be surprising if they were on their way to Central
America.  But citing ``proof'' of this from GUNG HO???  Good grief!)

		-Ed Hall
		decvax!randvax!edhall

This is my personal opinion, of course, and has little to do with
the opinion of my employer.