[net.politics] Huh?

gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg Kuperberg) (01/01/70)

> Our efforts in Nicaraugua are just as bogus and self serving
> as the crap the Russians are pulling in Afghanistan. 
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> 						Mark Roddy

Perhaps.  But there are big differences that you've overlooked.  I will
list the biggest ones:

1)  There are 100,000 Soviet troops in Afghanistan.  There are no U.S.
troops in Nicaragua.  There are not that many soldiers on all sides put
together in Nicaragua and El Salvador put together.

2)  The Soviets use napalm and attack helicopters.  The contras have no
attack helicopters and wouldn't know napalm if they saw it.

3)  There are no protests, no reports, and no comments about the invasion
of Afghanistan in the Soviet Union.  One very common answer to an opinion
poll I saw was, "Afghanistan?  Are there Soviet troops in Afghanistan?"

4)  The Reagan Administration is four years old, while the invasion of
Afghanistan is five years old.
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			Greg Kuperberg
		     harvard!talcott!gjk

"2*x^5-10*x+5=0 is not solvable by radicals." -Evariste Galois.

mroddy@enmasse.UUCP (Mark Roddy) (03/06/85)

> 
	[ in reference to guns in Grenada]

		To deny the difference between the contras based in Hondouras
		and Guatemala, and the Salvadoran rebels is true political blindness.
		  
		The administration would like us to believe that because
		soviet rifles may be in Salvadoran rebel hands, that the
		war against Nicaraugua is justified. They would like us
		to believe that the U.S. effort in central america is 
		merely a response in kind to the U.S.S.R's efforts on
		behalf of the Salvadoran rebels.

		Well excuse me, but I don't recall that the Salvadoran
		rebels have large base camps in Nicaraugua, Soviet air
		and Naval support in reserve, or a large contingent of
		Soviet troops on joint permanent maneuvers with the
		Nicarauguan armed forces. 

		This is just the big lie again folks, you've seen it before
		with Viet Nam, and now you are seeing it again. 

		Our efforts in Nicaraugua are just as bogus and self serving
		as the crap the Russians are pulling in Afghanistan. 

		It's so easy to distinguish the 'rebels' from the 'mercenaries'.
		The rebels have the support of the people. They survive,
		inside the country of a hostile government, because
		they ARE the people. The mercenaries need base camps in safe
		areas outside of the target country to hide in, they can operate
		only briefly in the target country, because the people rat on them.
		They AREN'T the people.

		This test is non-ideological. Afghan rebels pass, Salvadoran rebels
		pass, the contras fail. 


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						Mark Roddy
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