[net.music] messages

Lippard@his-phoenix-multics.arpa (James J. Lippard) (04/04/85)

For anyone not tired of them yet, here are a few more
etched messages:

Circle Jerks "Group Sex"
   side 1: "Bong ludes"
Circle Jerks "Wild in the Streets"
   side 1: "Horn in cheif out"
   side 2: "Take over and shine on"
Roy Harper "The Unknown Soldier"
   side 1: "To Kate with love  Roy"
T.S.O.L. "Dance With Me"
   side 1: "Jack is Comedy"
   side 2: "I won!"
T.S.O.L. "Beneath the Shadows"
   side 1: "Nanny, nanny, billy goat!"
   side 2: "Do what you [underlined] want"


Hidden messages:  It seems to me there are the following
different kinds:

1.  Recorded at a different speed (e.g.  Jimi Hendrix "Third Stone from the
    Sun").
2.  Recorded normally , then put into the music backwards ("backwards
    masking") (e.g.  message in "Empty Spaces" on Pink Floyd's "The Wall").
3.  Recorded by a performer saying something backwards (e.g.  "natas!" on a
    live album by Black Oak Arkansas).
4.  Recorded normally, played normally, words played backwards have a
    different meaning (e.g.  Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven", the Kate
    Bush example Doug Alan mentioned).

The first three types are obviously intentional.  I would guess that 90% or
more of type 4 is unintentional (and usually not really even there).  I
originally thought that it was all bogus, but the Kate Bush message is
evidence that it has been done intentionally.


Regarding "Paul is dead": I've seen a lot of pieces of "evidence" that Paul
McCartney is dead, but I'm not convinced that it was deliberate.  I've seen
reasonable explanations for most of it.  I find the coincidences between the
assassinations of Lincoln and Kennedy and the coincidences about Dutch Schultz
and the number 23 to be more impressive, and they were clearly unintentional.

Here are a few (from a list of 25 in The Book of Rock Lists, pp. 454-456):

11.  On The White Album track "Revolution 9" there is a voice that repeats
"number nine, number nine".  If you play this segment backward, it becomes
"turn me on, dead man".  (John claimed that at the beginning of each take, an
engineer would announce, "This is EMI Recording Studio Number 9." Lennon said
that he simply took the end of the phrase and added it in the final mix.
According to him, the "turn me on, dead man" revelation was a coincidence.)

12.  On Lennon's song "Glass Onion", he says, "And here's another clue for you
all/The Walrus was Paul." In some societies, the walrus was an image of death,
but this is most important as Lennon's acknowledgement of the rumor.  [Looks
like the rumor had already started at this time and this was just a joke.
This is a possible explanation for much of the later stuff.]

18.  At the end of "Strawberry Fields Forever", Lennon can be heard saying
what sounds very much like "I buried Paul".  (Lennon claimed that The Beatles
would often say wild and crazy things while in the studio, and that what he
was really saying was "cranberry sauce".) [It sounds more like "cranberry
sauce" than "I buried Paul" to me.]

21.  In the "Your Mother Should Know" sequence of the Magical Mystery Tour
movie, "Paul" wears a black carnation; the others wear white ones.  ("Paul"
has explained that they ran out of white carnations.)

Jim Lippard (Lippard at MIT-MULTICS.ARPA)

cmoore@BRL-VLD.ARPA (VLD/VMB) (04/04/85)

The "I buried Paul" or "cranberry sauce" line could also pass
for "I'm very bored".  (Newest of these to me is "cranberry
sauce".)

man@bocar.UUCP (M Nevar) (04/08/85)

>>12.  On Lennon's song "Glass Onion", he says, "And here's another clue for you
>>all/The Walrus was Paul." In some societies, the walrus was an image of death,

I have a copy of an interview that John Lennon did with WNEW-FM in NY in 1974.
This was just as the album with #9 Dream was coming out.  He did about a 
three hour interview and played disc-jockey for awhile.  It was a great time.
He was in top form with his wit.  Anyway, the subject came up about Glass
Onion and I am the Walrus.  John said he wrote I am the Walrus based very
loosely about Lewis Carrol's books, because he liked the Walrus.  Then later
he found out the Walrus was a bad guy and he decided to change it by telling
everyone that Paul was the Walrus.  By the way, Glass Onion was written
as a tribute to Paul by John for his help in trying to keep the group together
after Brian Epstein has died.

Well... that's what he said.

						Mark

man@bocar.UUCP (M Nevar) (04/08/85)

Here I am again.

On Strawberry fields forever, it does indeed sound like "cranberry sauce".
But try playing it at 45 RPM.  I DOES sound like I buried Paul.  I SWEAR !

                                                     Mark

man@bocar.UUCP (M Nevar) (04/08/85)

As you have mentioned about the black carnation in  The Magical Mystery
Tour, look at the picture book.  On the third(?) page, there is a picture
of Paul in a military uniform sitting behind a desk.  On the desk is a 
nameplate.  What does it say ???


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                                                          Mark