cher@ihlpm.UUCP (Mike Cherepov) (04/05/85)
> If someone wants to DISCUSS some issues of Nazism, how about answering this > question, am I right in my assumption that the whole struggle between the > Nazis and the Marxists (which the Nazis assert are very closely tied with > the Jews) is the struggle between the ideas that men are equal (Marxist) and > that men are not equal (Nazi)? I'll argue with that. Here are the reasons why I think this is the most superfluous assumption I have seen in quite a while. By "Marxism" I universally would mean Soviet model (not IRS as Black did). That is what Nazis themselves meant. If that's not what you had in mind - sorry. Throw away rest of it. 1) "whole struggle" is mainly USSR-Germany military actions. Everything else is completely dwarfed by these events, so that's what I will concentrate on. 2) Those "Marxist" ideas you talking about were NEVER a driving force for communist states. Ok? USSR is known for exiling a people (Crimean Tatars) from their native land to Siberia (they are still there), for murdering Afghans (you probably respect them for that more then Afghans), for persecution of Jews, forcing russification of all ethnic groups that comprise the country's population. 3) The war was the struggle for power and influence between two expansionist totalitarian powers (two - just to keep it on our Marxism-Nazism level). Just like many times before. Also read "1984". 4) Many important similarities between the two systems: party elite, totalitarian government, hopes of world domination, persecution of own population (social enemies being exterminated in USSR, racial in Germany) - in other words - use scapegoats to unite the masses; promises of upcoming paradise; move to control the economy and eliminate middle class; on, on and on. 5) Before actual military Marxism-Nazism conflict broke out (1941) USSR and Germany were getting along just fine: signed peace pact, split Poland, Germany enslaved Europe, USSR grabbed some Baltic people's states. The war broke out because of CLASH OF POWER AND ECONOMIC interests, not because SU was given to some silly-assed equality ideas. Just like it always does. For examples look at USA and South Africa, USSR and China. Ideological differences are enough to accuse bunch of communists of arson of Reichstag (sp?), to create more scapegoats and diversions for masses, but it would not be a reason for outbreak of world war! Not even with religions wars. > Will YOU recognize Nazism when it rears it head again? > -- > Russell Spence Hopefully, yes. It might begin with somebody trying to justify having such low an opinion of a people, that combined creators and puppets of a bloody regime deserve A LOT more respect. Or somebody offering a bunch of laughable excuses to justify being pissed at a people. Next thing might be some energetic follower who says "they've been sucking our blood long enough",.. I guess I feel weary Mike Cherepov