[net.politics] Propiganda, Sevener, Sykora, and MMT <in passing>

jj@alice.UUCP (05/24/85)

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> > >It would be best if you just spoke for yourself in such matters,
> > >since you don't know "all" of us!
> > >
> > >                                                Mike Sykora
> > 
> > Sorry. I misspoke.  I referred only to the humans among us, and among
> > those, only to people who have the ability and the inclination to read or
> > listen to radio (talking of the 1930's, with not much TV).  If you think
> > you are immune to intense propaganda, I suggest you are even more self-deluded
> > than your previous postings have indicated.
> > -- 
> > 
> > Martin Taylor
> 
> It is obvious that Mr. Sykora is not immune to propaganda as he has
> swallowed the hallowed free enterprise myths hook, line and sinker.
> Rather than being the sign of "independent thinking" which I presume
> Mr. Sykora assumes his blind adherence to free enterprise myths to be,
> such "independent thinking" is really no different than the propaganda
> thrown out in the typical Mobil advertisement.
>  
> I will not argue that such self-delusion or persistence of myths that
> fly in the face of reality is limited only to the right.  I believe
> the Left does the same thing when socialist governments try to impose
> collectivization on agriculture - the myth being everything will be
> better done "collectively".  Unfortunately experience seems to show
> that agricultural productivity would be increased more by promoting
> numerous small to middle-size holdings.
>  
> We are all subject to propaganda to some degree whether we admit it or not.
> The best response in the face of this is to constantly examine our
> opinions, assumptions and presumed facts against reality and logic.
>                     tim sevener   whuxl!orb
> 
Tim,
	It's obvious that people aren't immune to propaganda, indeed
your own note demonstrates the same quite satisfactorily.  The only
question I have for you is:
	Why are you constantly spouting the "blind adherence to free enterprise
myth" phrase at us.  That, in itself, is a phrase that has been used by
"leftists" <I use the quotes of contempt, there are many kinds of
leftist, just like there are many kinds of middle of the road people, Tim>
for many years.  It appears that they think that if they convince enough
people to mouth it, it will become true.  This sort of "proof by
constant assertion" goes under two names, propiganda and brainwashing.
Why are YOU using these techniques, Tim?  Do I detect a failure of
self-examination, perhaps?  As you say, you are also vulnerable to
propiganda.  Why do you not examine the bankrupt rhetoric that
you insist on placing before us at least once a week?
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