Lippard@his-phoenix-multics.arpa (James J. Lippard) (03/22/85)
In "Revolution #9", the voice saying "number nine" is saying it
something like this:
num ber neye un uh
so that, when played backwards, you hear:
uh nu eyen reb mun
This happens to be sufficiently close to "turn me on, dead man" that the
power of suggestion will make you hear that. After playing around with
this on a reel-to-reel, I decided it really sounds more like "onion
rebmun" (with the accent on the second syllable of the first word). I
also tried to reproduce it by saying "number nine" myself--it took
several tries to enunciate correctly so that I could hear "turn me on,
dead man".
Creating things like this would probably be no more difficult
than creating palindromes (which is pretty hard, the farthest
I've ever gotten is "tear gas is a great"). I'm inclined to believe
that most of this stuff is unintentional, though, and that people are
just imposing their own meaning on it.
On the subject of "secret messages", could someone who has Jimi
Hendrix's "Third Stone from the Sun" (on the album Are You Experienced?)
and a turntable that can play at 78 rpm transcribe the dialogue between
"Starship" and "Star Command"?marno@ihuxm.UUCP (Marilyn Ashley) (03/25/85)
> Creating things like this would probably be no more difficult > than creating palindromes (which is pretty hard, the farthest > I've ever gotten is "tear gas is a great"). I'm inclined to believe > that most of this stuff is unintentional, though, and that people are > just imposing their own meaning on it. I certainly have to agree. When I read the book "Helter Skelter" the author, Vince Bugliosi, insisted that Revolution 9 carried the phrase "block that nixon" in reference to the political situation in America. After all these years, it still sounds like "block that kick" to me. I'll bet the Beatles (and other groups) must have had agood laugh at some of the interpretations made on their music.
jcjeff@ihlpg.UUCP (jeffreys) (03/25/85)
I saw a television progamme a few months ago, where the presenter
was listing, and playing pieces of records backwards (including,
amongst many others, Stairway to Heaven - Led Zepplin), where the
content of the *Hidden Message* was supposedly some reference to
the Devil. It was the biggest load of bull**** I have ever heard.
I THOUGHT that this guy was a ONE OFF, but...
There ACTUALLY seems to be MORE idiots who play records backwards!!!
What kind of jerk plays records backwards anyway ??????
If that isn't STUPID enough, they THEN try to determine some
*Hidden Meaning* or *phrase* out of the garbage they hear!!!!!
..........Time to GROW-UP kiddies.
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong [DCS]) (03/27/85)
In article <295@ihlpg.UUCP> jcjeff@ihlpg.UUCP (jeffreys) writes: >I saw a television progamme a few months ago, where the presenter >was listing, and playing pieces of records backwards (including, >amongst many others, Stairway to Heaven - Led Zepplin), where the >content of the *Hidden Message* was supposedly some reference to >the Devil. It was the biggest load of bull**** I have ever heard. >I THOUGHT that this guy was a ONE OFF, but... > >There ACTUALLY seems to be MORE idiots who play records backwards!!! > >What kind of jerk plays records backwards anyway ?????? >If that isn't STUPID enough, they THEN try to determine some >*Hidden Meaning* or *phrase* out of the garbage they hear!!!!! >|| From the keys of Richard Jeffreys ( British Citizen Overseas ) || a few days after that, CBC Toronto had someone on who picked a random selection of popular music and played them all backwards, excerpting pieces he thought were interesting. he then did the same thing for recorded speeches of some famous people. he played them backwards to the reporter and asked him if he heard any messages on the tapes. the reported didn't, and neither did i. the person being interviewed then offered various interpretations of the sounds and played them back again. with the suggestions, one could interpolate and come up with the messages that were proposed. the person who did this was a psychologist who said that all this was coincidence and nonsense on the part of the people looking for ``deeper meaning'' in the records. there ARE a few with hidden messages backwards, but they are deliberately recorded backwards (an ELO album has this) and are distinctly recognizable words, while most of the stuff being interpreted is muffled and vague, to say the least. Herb Chong... I'm user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... UUCP: {decvax|utzoo|ihnp4|allegra|clyde}!watmath!water!watdcsu!herbie CSNET: herbie%watdcsu@waterloo.csnet ARPA: herbie%watdcsu%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa NETNORTH, BITNET, EARN: herbie@watdcs, herbie@watdcsu
ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) (03/29/85)
> >There ACTUALLY seems to be MORE idiots who play records backwards!!! > >What kind of jerk plays records backwards anyway ?????? >If that isn't STUPID enough, they THEN try to determine some >*Hidden Meaning* or *phrase* out of the garbage they hear!!!!! > >..........Time to GROW-UP kiddies. > To the author of this remark, may I infer that your mother wears army boots? Who the hell wants to grow up anyway? Not me.. But for you, the modern space cadet, Throbbing Gristle has a really swell version of `2nd Annual Report' (1978), that is a COMPLETELY BACKWARDS release of the original LP. Oddly enough, it's frequently hard to tell the difference, except that the backwards version has superior sound. -michael
jcjeff@ihlpg.UUCP (jeffreys) (03/31/85)
> > > >There ACTUALLY seems to be MORE idiots who play records backwards!!! > > > >What kind of jerk plays records backwards anyway ?????? > >If that isn't STUPID enough, they THEN try to determine some > >*Hidden Meaning* or *phrase* out of the garbage they hear!!!!! > > > >..........Time to GROW-UP kiddies. > > > > To the author of this remark, may I infer that your mother wears army boots? Sorry, my mother does not wear army boots. > Who the hell wants to grow up anyway? Not me.. I thought your name was Micheal, not Peter Pan. > > But for you, the modern space cadet, Throbbing Gristle has a really swell > version of `2nd Annual Report' (1978), that is a COMPLETELY BACKWARDS > release of the original LP. I guess that "Throbbing Gristle" can happily retire on his royalties from the record. There does seem to be quite a lot of people who would like that kind of stuff, according to the amount of postings on net.music on the subject of backward recordings. If I ever obtained a copy of it, the only use I would get out of it would be to transform it into a plant holder with the aid of some very hot water. > Oddly enough, it's frequently hard to tell the difference, except that the > backwards version has superior sound. > > -michael I expect you're correct on your statement, Michael, but I think I'll pass on putting it to the test. Kind Regards, -- [ There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold, and she's buying a staiway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || From the keys of Richard Jeffreys ( British Citizen Overseas ) || || employed by North American Philips Corporation || || @ AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, Illinois || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ || General disclaimer about anything and everything that I may have typed || ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (04/01/85)
>>>There ACTUALLY seems to be MORE idiots who play records backwards!!! >>> >>>What kind of jerk plays records backwards anyway ?????? >>>If that isn't STUPID enough, they THEN try to determine some >>>*Hidden Meaning* or *phrase* out of the garbage they hear!!!!! >>> >>>..........Time to GROW-UP kiddies. [RICHARD JEFFERYS] >>To the author of this remark, may I infer that your mother wears army boots? [ELLIS?] > Sorry, my mother does not wear army boots. She must. I mean, anyone who likes to proclaim other tastes as garbage with epithets like "Time to grow up" must come from a very rigid military family indeed, where independence of taste results in 50 lashes from the sergeant. (Which may or may not be to your liking...) >>But for you, the modern space cadet, Throbbing Gristle has a really swell >>version of `2nd Annual Report' (1978), that is a COMPLETELY BACKWARDS >>release of the original LP. > I guess that "Throbbing Gristle" can happily retire on his royalties from > the record. There does seem to be quite a lot of people who would like that > kind of stuff, according to the amount of postings on net.music on the > subject of backward recordings. If I ever obtained a copy of it, the only > use I would get out of it would be to transform it into a plant holder with > the aid of some very hot water. 1) Why would you thus want to obtain a copy of it, when actual things more suited to being plantholders (e.g., records by artists that you like) would be much cheaper. 2) "HIS" royalties? Obviously we're talking to someone so well versed in the world of music that he knows "Mr. Gristle" personally. (Never mind.) So bold to comment on that which you are hopelessly unfamiliar with. Are there any other musical styles/concepts that you feel should be gotten rid of? Synthesizers? Third world rhythms? How about guitars? > [ There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold, > and she's buying a staiway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin ] Excuse me, but I've never heard of this rather obscure song. Could you tell us more about it? I mean, you with the supreme musical knowledge might explain if this might be the same song we hear every hour on the hour on certain radio stations. To quote a famous philosopher, "time to grow up". (TRANSLATION: you have some nerve.) -- "Which three books would *you* have taken?" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
elf@utcsri.UUCP (Eugene Fiume) (04/02/85)
[] > 2) "HIS" royalties? Obviously we're talking to someone > so well versed in the world of music that he knows "Mr. Gristle" personally. > Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr You gotta admit that it'd be neat to know a Mr. Throbbing Gristle. A diminuitive should be TIAB GULS (pardon the in joke). Eugene Fiume {decvax|allegra}!utcsri!elf
woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) (04/02/85)
> I'll bet the Beatles (and other groups) must have had agood laugh at > some of the interpretations made on their music. Indeed they have. In fact, the song "Glass Onion" appears to be poking fun at those who have attempted to read things into their music. --Greg -- {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | decvax!noao | harpo!seismo | ihnp4!noao} !hao!woods CSNET: woods@NCAR ARPA: woods%ncar@CSNET-RELAY "Please don't dominate the rap Jack, if you got nothing new to say..."
weiss@gondor.UUCP (04/04/85)
*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR cryptic remark *** As George Carlin said, (as a DJ character) "And now, the record from the <name of band>, which if you play it backwards it screws up your needle!" I think that says it all. -- I don't practice what I preach because I am not the type of person I'm preaching to. Michael S. Weiss BITNET: weiss@psuvaxg.bitnet
bandy@lll-crg.ARPA (Andrew Scott Beals) (04/08/85)
I just listened to some old Donnie and Marie records backwards.
I heard someone telling me to be nice to my brother and sister.
Does this mean anything?
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andy beals
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