[net.politics] Coke and the Real Thing

berman@ihlpg.UUCP (Andy Berman) (07/11/85)

>OK folks, now that ALL of you have assumed you were the ONLY
>ones who heard the old Coke is coming back, and just HAD to
>tell the WHOLE WORLD (who undoubtedly knew already anyway),
>you can stop patting yourselves on the back.
>
>WE ALREADY KNOW!
>WE ALREADY KNOW!
>WE ALREADY KNOW!
>WE ALREADY KNOW!
>
>So shut up already.
----------------------------------------------
This week 7 Black South Africans were killed by the Apartheid regime.
The media took scant notice. The most massive air bombardment in the
history of the Western Hemisphere continued in El Salvador as US supplied
planes and bombs attacked people in zones of rebel control. The media
took absolutely no notice. Congress just authorized CIA funding to
overthrow the governments of Angola and Nicaragua. Barely a word on the
net.  But the media and those who control the public consciousness
go to town over the reformulation of a soft-drink. 
And, alas, we are taken in, and pretend to care about such nonsense. 

As in Roman times,
give them circuses to distract them. 

I mourn for my country.
             ihnp4!ihlpg!berman

braman@dataio.UUCP (Rick Braman) (07/12/85)

> >OK folks, now that ALL of you have assumed you were the ONLY
> >ones who heard the old Coke is coming back, and just HAD to
> >tell the WHOLE WORLD (who undoubtedly knew already anyway),
> >you can stop patting yourselves on the back.
> >
> >WE ALREADY KNOW!
> >WE ALREADY KNOW!
> >WE ALREADY KNOW!
> >WE ALREADY KNOW!
> >
> >So shut up already.
> ----------------------------------------------
> This week 7 Black South Africans were killed by the Apartheid regime.
> The media took scant notice. The most massive air bombardment in the
> history of the Western Hemisphere continued in El Salvador as US supplied
> planes and bombs attacked people in zones of rebel control. The media
> took absolutely no notice. Congress just authorized CIA funding to
> overthrow the governments of Angola and Nicaragua. Barely a word on the
> net.  But the media and those who control the public consciousness
> go to town over the reformulation of a soft-drink. 
> And, alas, we are taken in, and pretend to care about such nonsense. 
> 
> As in Roman times,
> give them circuses to distract them. 
> 
> I mourn for my country.
>              ihnp4!ihlpg!berman

AMEN!  I couldn't agree more.

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mercury@ut-ngp.UTEXAS (Larry E. Baker) (07/12/85)

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> This week 7 Black South Africans were killed by the Apartheid regime.
> The media took scant notice. The most massive air bombardment in the
> history of the Western Hemisphere continued in El Salvador as US supplied
> planes and bombs attacked people in zones of rebel control. The media

I think that the inhabitants of {Dresden, Berlin, London,
Munich, etc.} would disagree.  When you say "Western Hemisphere,"
I assume you include the entirity of "Western Civilization," which
includes most of Europe.

I think "in the history of the Western Hemisphere" is taking things a
bit far.  Try "In the history of the American Hemisphere" and I might
not disagree, mainly because it is the ONLY bombardment that has
happened in the American hemisphere.  With the possible exclusion of
some Civil War episodes.  But that's because they didn't have
Howitzers then.

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abc@brl-tgr.ARPA (Brint Cooper ) (07/13/85)

In article <2020@ut-ngp.UTEXAS> mercury@ut-ngp.UTEXAS (Larry E. Baker) writes:

>I think that the inhabitants of {Dresden, Berlin, London,
>Munich, etc.} would disagree.  When you say "Western Hemisphere,"
>I assume you include the entirity of "Western Civilization," which
>includes most of Europe.

>I think "in the history of the Western Hemisphere" is taking things a
>bit far.  Try "In the history of the American Hemisphere" and I might
>not disagree, mainly because it is the ONLY bombardment that has
>happened in the American hemisphere.  With the possible exclusion of
>some Civil War episodes.  But that's because they didn't have
>Howitzers then.

Sorry, but Dresden, Berlin, and Munich are in the Eastern Hemisphere.
The Prime Meridian runs thru Greenwich, England, just down the Thames
from London.

oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) (07/13/85)

In article <ihlpg.814> berman@ihlpg.UUCP (Andy Berman) writes:
>>OK folks, now that ALL of you have assumed you were the ONLY


        insert Coke news here...



>>WE ALREADY KNOW!
>>
>>So shut up already.
>----------------------------------------------
>This week 7 Black South Africans were killed by the Apartheid regime.
>The media took scant notice. The most massive air bombardment in the


             blah, blah, blah...


>And, alas, we are taken in, and pretend to care about such nonsense. 
>
>As in Roman times,
>give them circuses to distract them. 
>
>I mourn for my country.
>             ihnp4!ihlpg!berman


God forbid that anyone enjoy life around here when such opportuniuties for
self righteous moral indignation abound.  I dissect murder victims for a
living for Chrissake.  I can use a circus now and then.  There is
no sin in a little frivolity; we all have sorrow and we all die, usually
unpleasantly.  A man can smile without accepting all the evil in 
the world. Lighten up, for crying out loud.

I mourn for the moral dilettante.

Bill Oliver


Roads? We don`t need roads where we`re going.


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oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) (07/13/85)

I apologize for my previous posting.  I am sure that Mr. Berman
is quite sincere, and I display only ignorance by my statements.
My only excuse is that I had just come from a rather disturbing
day to relax at my machine, only to see someone write what a moral
brute I am.  I am sure I misinterpreted the original article, and
promise the net not to allow my anger to push the "F" key again.


Bill Oliver

keith@seismo.UUCP (Keith Bostic) (07/13/85)

In article <588@unc.UUCP>, oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) writes:
> I apologize for my previous posting.  I am sure that Mr. Berman
> is quite sincere, and I display only ignorance by my statements.
> My only excuse is that I had just come from a rather disturbing
> day to relax at my machine, only to see someone write what a moral
> brute I am.  I am sure I misinterpreted the original article, and
> promise the net not to allow my anger to push the "F" key again.
> 
> Bill Oliver

Why apologize, I kind of agreed.  Mr. Berman may or may not be sincere,
but he clearly portrays himself as self-righteous, obnoxious (after all,
we're all reading net.misc.coke 'cause we want to hear his moralizing,
right?) and above all, rather silly.

Keith Bostic
	ARPA: keith@seismo
	UUCP: seismo!keith

wkp@lanl.ARPA (07/14/85)

> This week 7 Black South Africans were killed by the Apartheid regime.
> The media took scant notice. The most massive air bombardment in the
> history of the Western Hemisphere continued in El Salvador as US supplied
> planes and bombs attacked people in zones of rebel control. The media
> took absolutely no notice. Congress just authorized CIA funding to
> overthrow the governments of Angola and Nicaragua. Barely a word on the
> net.  But the media and those who control the public consciousness
> go to town over the reformulation of a soft-drink. 

     You're right.  But consider this:  About three weeks ago, while
     my office mate was calling the White House to complain about
     their geo-political stance, I was calling 1-800-GET-COKE to 
     complain about the new coke.

     Results?  I got a free coupon for six bottles of coke and the
     satisfaction (this week) that my insignificant voice was heard.
     What impact do people who are alarmed about a political issue have?
     (Don't answer this, I know the answer already.  That is why I called
     up 1-800-GET-COKE....)

--

bill peter                                       ihnp4!lanl!wkp

"To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance."
                                           --Oscar Wilde

allynh@ucbvax.ARPA (Allyn Hardyck) (07/14/85)

In article <2020@ut-ngp.UTEXAS> mercury@ut-ngp.UTEXAS (Larry E. Baker) writes:
>I think that the inhabitants of {Dresden, Berlin, London,
>Munich, etc.} would disagree.  When you say "Western Hemisphere,"
>I assume you include the entirity of "Western Civilization," which
>includes most of Europe.

Wrongo - the Western Hemisphere is (technically) that hemisphere containing
everything east of the International Date Line and west of the Greenwich
Meridian, so it would contain part of London (and Ireland, etc.) - but in 
practice it is North and South America, Greenland, and the Caribbean.
Never heard the term "American Hemisphere" used before.

mag@whuxlm.UUCP (Gray Michael A) (07/14/85)

> I apologize for my previous posting.  I am sure that Mr. Berman
> is quite sincere, and I display only ignorance by my statements.
> My only excuse is that I had just come from a rather disturbing
> day to relax at my machine, only to see someone write what a moral
> brute I am.  I am sure I misinterpreted the original article, and
> promise the net not to allow my anger to push the "F" key again.
> 
> 
> Bill Oliver

Don't apologize - you were right on target.

Mike Gray

wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly) (07/15/85)

This discussion is going to THREE newsgroups. Now that there's a 
special newsgroup for this topic, how about editing your 'Newsgroups'
line, people? It's easy. If you don't know how, I'll be glad to give
you a lesson :-) Unfortunately, many of us don't share your enthusiasm
for the history and philosophy of Co-Cola (NET.PHILOSOPHY???)

                               -- Cheers, Bill Ingogly

jeff@gatech.CSNET (Jeff Lee) (07/15/85)

> I apologize for my previous posting.  I am sure that Mr. Berman
> is quite sincere, and I display only ignorance by my statements.
> My only excuse is that I had just come from a rather disturbing
> day to relax at my machine, only to see someone write what a moral
> brute I am.  I am sure I misinterpreted the original article, and
> promise the net not to allow my anger to push the "F" key again.
> 
> 
> Bill Oliver

I think you did nothing wrong. Net.politics or some other such group
is always available for such comments. I get enough of this stuff
every time I pick up a newpaper or listen to the news. Give me a little
mindless escapism sometime..... Don't put politics in my Coke.

-- 
Jeff Lee
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uucp:	...!{akgua,allegra,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,seismo,ulysses}!gatech!jeff

schuh@geowhiz.UUCP (David Schuh) (07/16/85)

> In article <588@unc.UUCP>, oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) writes:
> > I apologize for my previous posting.  I am sure that Mr. Berman
> > is quite sincere, and I display only ignorance by my statements.
> > My only excuse is that I had just come from a rather disturbing
> > day to relax at my machine, only to see someone write what a moral
> > brute I am.  I am sure I misinterpreted the original article, and
> > promise the net not to allow my anger to push the "F" key again.
> > 
> > Bill Oliver
> 
> Why apologize, I kind of agreed.  Mr. Berman may or may not be sincere,
> but he clearly portrays himself as self-righteous, obnoxious (after all,
> we're all reading net.misc.coke 'cause we want to hear his moralizing,
> right?) and above all, rather silly.
> 
> Keith Bostic
> 	ARPA: keith@seismo
> 	UUCP: seismo!keith

here!! here!!
	dave schuh
	!uwvax!geowhiz!schuh

nather@utastro.UUCP (Ed Nather) (07/17/85)

> > In article <588@unc.UUCP>, oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) writes:
> > > I apologize for my previous posting.  
> > > Bill Oliver
> > 
> > Why apologize, I kind of agreed.  
> > Keith Bostic
> 
> here!! here!!
> 	dave schuh

Where, where?  [Or did you mean "Hear, hear?"]

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cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) (07/23/85)

> In article <588@unc.UUCP>, oliver@unc.UUCP (Bill Oliver) writes:
> > I apologize for my previous posting.  I am sure that Mr. Berman
> > is quite sincere, and I display only ignorance by my statements.
> > My only excuse is that I had just come from a rather disturbing
> > day to relax at my machine, only to see someone write what a moral
> > brute I am.  I am sure I misinterpreted the original article, and
> > promise the net not to allow my anger to push the "F" key again.
> > 
> > Bill Oliver
> 
> Why apologize, I kind of agreed.  Mr. Berman may or may not be sincere,
> but he clearly portrays himself as self-righteous, obnoxious (after all,
> we're all reading net.misc.coke 'cause we want to hear his moralizing,
> right?) and above all, rather silly.
> 
> Keith Bostic
> 	ARPA: keith@seismo
> 	UUCP: seismo!keith

Wasn't it H.L. Mencken who defined a Puritan as "someone who lives in
dread fear that someone, somewhere, is having a good time"?  In every
political movement (alas, even in the libertarian movement) there seems
to be some ill-humored types who insist that the whole world needs to
spend every day hard at work solving problems; these same twerps view
every form of recreation as a crime against humanity.