black@pundit.DEC (DON BLACK DTN 261-2739 MS: NIO/N13 LOC: POLE C6) (08/05/85)
>Oh, don't get me wrong Don -- I wouldn't think to curtail your mindless >flagwaving for a moment. After all your ARE a n-- oops I almost did it >again. THIS time I will NOT call you a nazi (wonderful me!). You are a >-- oh never mind. > >-- >Charles Forsythe >CSDF@MIT-VAX >"You are a stupid fool." >-Wang Zeep > >"I'm not a fool!" >-The Hated One and >Subject: I don't know what a Nazi is either >Summary: just quilting a few lines together, don't mind me... > > Various people on the net love that term "Nazi." > I'm a dummy. I don't understand what a Nazi is. > ****************************** > [SHORTENED FOR BREVITY] > [All quotes by Don Black.] > >If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a duck, lives >in the swamp with the ducks, and presumably hopes to produce future >generations by <@%$>, who am I to question whether it's a duck? (Now, >as to whether you're a dummy...)[Oded Fiengold] It's too bad that the net has to be subjected to "Ad Hominem" slurs. But I suppose if They let me on the net, They can let this kind of crap continue. C'est la guerre, n'est-ce pas? The name of the game apparently is that if you can't make a logical argument against what's being said, then by all means discredit the person. All's fair in love and war. This following material originated as a PERSONAL EXCHANGE between myself and Mr. Dimitrovski. Normally I don't mind people using such material in the general net, since normally I give full permission. But I do believe it's appropriate to not take things out of context as Mr. Dimitrovsky has done. While we're on the subject, I highly recommend that the net not allow this to degenerate into a (pardon the expression) "pissing contest." So, Isaac, before the entire net, I dare you to submit my reply to these questions: >I don't understand, Don. I thought you'd be proud to be called a Nazi. >Another thing I can't understand is why you're so bland about some >things. You pussyfoot around saying things like [I'm paraphrasing; >I don't have the quotes handy, so deny if you feel misquoted] >"Well, as far whether the Germans gassed Jews, there are pros and cons, >aren't there?" or "There is an Institute in California which has offered >a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove the Germans gassed Jews; so far >noone has been able to make them pay." > >Why not just say what you think? i.e. "I don't think the Germans >gassed Jews; the Holocaust is a hoax." Come to think of it, why haven't >you ever said exactly what *you* want to do about the Jews? The closest >thing I can remember is when someone asked if Jews were the Antichrist >and you answered "Well, if the shoe fits ..." Come on, Don, you can do >better than that. What should be done about the Antichrist? What would >you do if someone made you President tomorrow? > >As long as I'm asking you to explain your opinions, I might as well >add your recent comment to the effect that "Christians should really >read the Talmud; they'd really get an education." What exactly would >they find out? Post all the details in net.religion. [Isaac Dimitrovsky] > >> Remember how Hitler worked in Germany? First he went for one group, >> and nobody spoke up. Then he went for another, and nobody spoke up. And >> so on, until Germany was both levelled and partially enslaved. It can >> happen here too. So I speak up. [Don Black] > > >I'm truly baffled now, Don. Just what groups do you think Hitler went for? >Do you think the Nazis were composed of Jews, Gypsys, gays, etc. who >ganged up on Aryans and put them in concentration camps? Please clarify. >[lots of stuff about guns] [Isaac Dimitrovsky] Let's hear it, Isaac. What did I say that you left out? What are you afraid of admitting that I said? If the net wants to see the entire exchange, I will be glad to submit it. I have nothing to lose. Otherwise, Isaac, "put up or shut up." >I don't really want to talk about guns, Don. I'm undecided about gun >control. I think there are good arguments for both sides. Like chasing geriatric Nazis, it's called "beating a dead horse." Since other people on the net have said plenty already about Ad Hominems, so therefore have I. --Don Black
csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) (08/06/85)
In article <3446@decwrl.UUCP> DON BLACK writes: >>again. THIS time I will NOT call you a nazi (wonderful me!). You are a >>-- oh never mind. ;-) C'mon, Don! I showed SUCH restraint. I mean, my bestest buddy Ken gave me a chance to "grow up", can't you give me credit for effort? ;-) Seriously: >>Summary: just quilting a few lines together, don't mind me... >> [SHORTENED FOR BREVITY] >> [All quotes by Don Black.] You know, I find it REALLY irritating how you deleted every bit of relevant context from this. I suggest that everybody go back and read Oded's posting. > But I do believe it's appropriate to not take things out of context >as Mr. Dimitrovsky has done. You should talk, Don. Really, I was starting to respect your opinions, too. >>Why not just say what you think? i.e. "I don't think the Germans >>gassed Jews; the Holocaust is a hoax." Come to think of it, why haven't >>you ever said exactly what *you* want to do about the Jews? The closest >>thing I can remember is when someone asked if Jews were the Antichrist >>and you answered "Well, if the shoe fits ..." Come on, Don, you can do >>better than that. What should be done about the Antichrist? What would >>you do if someone made you President tomorrow? I WOULD like to see your answers to these. > Let's hear it, Isaac. What did I say that you left out? What are >you afraid of admitting that I said? Coming from somebody who deleted a lot of his own juicy quotes from a posting in order to make the poster look like a muck raker, I would say it was you that is hiding. > Like chasing geriatric Nazis, it's called "beating a dead horse." Your right there. Let the old men go. It was soooo long ago anyway. Everybody's forgotten what they did. What's the statute of limitations on "attempted genocide" anyway? -- Charles Forsythe CSDF@MIT-VAX "You are a stupid fool." -Wang Zeep "I'm not a fool!" -The Hated One