[net.politics] Lies or a schizophrenic time sense

mokhtar@ubc-vision.UUCP (Farzin Mokhtarian) (11/05/85)

Subject: Lies - or a schizophrenic time sense

>>	Israel is a very close  ally  of  the  U.S.  which  has  and
>>	continues to receive massive financial and military aid from
>>	the U.S. and still, the U.S. has to  defend  Egypt,  another
>>	ally, against Israel?
						   Farzin Mokhtarian
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>   The antecedent statement was about Egypt receiving aid from the  US,
> and the US keeping Israeli troops out of Cairo in 1973.  Since the peace
> treaty between them was ratified in 1978, Israel  has  done  nothing  to
> endanger Egypt, except send occasionally obnoxious tourists.  The US has
> not had to defend Egypt against anyone except the Libyans.   Farzin,  if
> you have evidence that the Libyans are Israeli agents, show it.
>    This  is the honesty one gets from a man who has "trouble with his
> soul?"  I shouldn't wonder.  Can you say "dipshit hypocrisy?" 
> Oded Feingold 

My original article was in response to an article which stated that Egypt's
president should keep quiet rather than protest the U.S. handling of the 
recent hostage incident involving the Italian ship. The reason given was
that Egypt is being protected by the U.S. against Israel.
  
If indeed there in no longer a reason to protect Egypt against Israel, that
is good news. I hope it stays that way. But I think many Arabs living in 
countries neighboring Israel will find it difficult to believe that it
won't happen in the future because Israel has shown a pattern of military
aggressiveness over its (relatively) very short history and except for
the Eisenhower Administration, the U.S. government has not made a real
effort to curb that aggressiveness. Why don't you challenge me to show
evidence for the things I say rather than something I never claimed, Oded?
By the way, my soul is very healthy and strong, thank you. 
     Farzin Mokhtarian
       

tan@ihlpg.UUCP (Bill Tanenbaum) (11/06/85)

> [Farzin Mokhtarian]
> If indeed there in no longer a reason to protect Egypt against Israel, that
> is good news. I hope it stays that way. But I think many Arabs living in 
> countries neighboring Israel will find it difficult to believe that it
> won't happen in the future because Israel has shown a pattern of military
> aggressiveness over its (relatively) very short history and except for
> the Eisenhower Administration, the U.S. government has not made a real
> effort to curb that aggressiveness.
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All Israel's acts of "aggressiveness" against neighboring countries were
against countries which
	1) Refused to publicly recognize Israel's right to exist.
	2) Were in a formal state of war with Israel, and refused to
	   sign a peace treaty, let alone have normal relations.

It takes two sides to make peace, Farzin.   Egypt has done so.  I hope
it stays that way, too.  We await Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc.
-- 
Bill Tanenbaum - AT&T Bell Labs - Naperville IL  ihnp4!ihlpg!tan